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Carolina Panthers’ Monday Morning Optimist 11/30/09

Good morning Panther faithful. What can we say about yesterday's game? A disappointment? An embarrassment? An abomination? All of the above? The Panthers were, for lack of a better term, awful on Sunday, at least on one side of the ball. Now we sit 4-7 with playoff contention a distant memory of a hopeful era 3 weeks back, when the fan base thought anything was possible.

Now that we are eliminated for all intents and purposes (I know there's a 1% chance) we are now a team who needs to evaluate their future talent to prepare for the draft, rather than try to finish a mediocre 7-9, 8-8 or 6-10. It will be incumbent upon John Fox to see what is needed for the future of the franchise rather than winning the bare minimum to justify him keeping his job.

More to come, after the jump...

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I'm sure every football fan has heard the old axiom ‘Football is a game of inches'. This overused phrase normally refers to the need to move the chains, focus on the minutia and dominate those few inches where a game is won or lost. As tired as this phrase has become it can be used perfectly to illustrate what happened in yesterday's game. A few inches to the left and that ball would have harmlessly hit the ground rather than bounce of Steve Smith's heel for a pick 6, a few inches to the right and Steve Smith is awarded his 4th quarter touchdown. The ball bounces the Panthers' way in these two occasions and the score is 13-7 Panthers, it's as simple as that. The fault of the Panthers was letting the game hinge of two plays.

Normally I detest the term ‘They didn't beat us; we beat ourselves' as it exudes an air of confidence and arrogance while saying the winning team didn't deserve it. With full respect to the Jets who played well, we beat ourselves on Sunday. There was nothing memorable the Jets did on offense all day, they didn't need to do anything flashy, they didn't need anyone to step up; because the Panthers had enough players step down.

Jake Delhomme will be omitted from the regular breakdown, because yet again I'm going to talk about him now. Was Jake Delhomme the reason we lost Sunday's game vs. the Jets? Probably, but football is a team game and the rest of the offense will get theirs later in this article. Delhomme is experiencing a crisis of confidence in 2009. I don't care what he's saying in the media, or what his teammates are saying I don't believe he's the same player from his mannerisms' and body language. He's shown moments, and games that display that ‘same old Jake' mentality, but he isn't bouncing back the way we're used to. The old Jake would storm off the field yelling at himself after an INT, 2009 Jake walks off the field as if the inevitable has just occurred. I still don't think Jake Delhomme is ‘done' as people like to throw around, but he needs to sit; Jake needs to be on the bench for the sake of the Carolina Panthers, the future of the franchise and most importantly he needs to sit on the bench for himself, so he can step back and try and regain his mental composure.

No doubt the masses who were calling for Jake's head 5 weeks ago will be out in force this week, despite being curiously absent for the last month. They will barrage message boards, blogs and talk radio with their ‘I told you so' spiel, and writing their vitriolic messages of condemnation. To these people Delhomme's decent (certainly not stellar) play in the last month falls on blind eyes and deaf ears; they want to go into the unknown and try and play Matt Moore, if for no other reason than hope against hope we have the next Tom Brady waiting to get a shot. I've been pretty resolute on this topic, you don't play Matt Moore until the season is out of hand, well, it's out of hand so I think Fox has to play Moore. It goes beyond 2009, it becomes about evaluating what we have inside the organization before taking a shot on a QB in the 2010 draft. So, what's standing in the way of this franchise making the decisions it needs to in order to prepare for the future? John Fox.

It is now incumbent upon Fox to put the organization first and start Moore. This could be a sacrificial move on his part, because if the Panthers fail and we finish 4-12 then he'll most likely be cut from the team. The upside: if lightning strikes and Matt Moore is indeed ‘the man' we could potentially finish 8-8, Fox is a shoe-in to keep his job and we go into the 2010 draft looking at drafting a WR or DL in the second round. It's a gamble either way, but a necessary one. Now's not the time for Fox or the Panthers organization to play scared, it's time to lash out with some bold moves to try a last ditch effort at saving not only the season, but the near future of the Carolina Panthers.

Optimistic

Ron Meeks- Extremely Optimistic: Does anyone doubt Meeks at this point? I've been flying the Meeks flag for weeks now and I'm not going to stop any time soon. It's miraculous how hard this team is playing with backup DL and LBs. He's doing a phenomenal job.

 

Jon Beason- Extremely Optimistic: Its beast, you don't even need to watch games and you can pencil him in to this spot. He's money week in, week out.

 

Tyler Brayton- Extremely Optimistic: Brayton played very well on Sunday continually pestering Sanchez and getting 1.5 sacks. Nice work.

 

Chris Harris- Somewhat Optimistic: CSR contributor Harris makes the list easily. He covered the middle very well and created a timely fumble; Great game from Harris.

 

Everette Brown- Somewhat Optimistic: Brown continues to look like a 2nd round pick that was worthy of the 1st he was projected as. He needs more playing time, but he's looking like a very special player.

 

Julius Peppers- Somewhat Optimistic: Pepper s returned to form in vs. the Jets. Nice FF by Peppers.

 

Dwayne Jarrett- Somewhat Optimistic: He's ALIVE! There were signs of life from the WR and he showed that he could actually be catching one. It normally takes WRs a couple of years to find their form, so let's hope we're seeing it happen now.

 

Captain Munnerlyn- Somewhat Optimistic: As good at his PR was on Sunday he almost deserves to be left out for his horrible sideline dance caught on camera in the 3rd quarter, I kid... nice play from the rookie.

 

Pessimistic

Offensive Line- Extremely pessimistic: As porous as a dime store paper towel the Panthers' O-line let everything through on Sunday. On the sheet the Jets only recorded 3 sacks, but it really should have been more like 7 or 8. Bernadeau missed at least 1/5th of his blocks, Wharton was terrible at LT, Otah got no push and Kalil looked confused. The offensive line as a whole were pitiful on Sunday. By no means does Jake Delhomme get a pass, but the offensive line didn't help him.

 

Double Trouble- Somewhat Pessimistic: I wont be too hard on them because the offensive line were that bad but 24 carries for 75 yards and a YPC of 3 just wont cut it.

 

Overall assessment

There are bright spots on this team, no doubt and in the end there were more players that played well on Sunday than those who played poorly, unfortunately the players who didn't show up were at our most integral positions. We have Tampa Bay next, and I can't think of a better occasion to throw Matt Moore to the wolves and see what he can do. The season may be lost, but I remain a steadfast Panther fan who will be pulling on Sunday no matter what, and I'll be here same time, same day as your Monday Morning Optimist.

 

30% Optimistic as the Bucs come to town.

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I want to emphasize Tyler Brayton

Extremely optimistic.

Please add Hollis Thomas to Optimistic list. He has changed the flow of the defense since he came on board.

Personally I would drop Pepper’s to neutral. He may have caused a forced fumble, but he was easily managed by one offesive lineman on the Jets line, and usually it was the tight end.

by univonc on Nov 30, 2009 10:17 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ahh the Optimist, onlhy reason I wake up on Monday anymore

Great read as always James. I hope Fox takes your advice about Moore. However, with
Jake’s current contract and Fox’s undying loyalty I’m afraid Foxy will get the pink slip before Delhomme rides any pine.

And as a potential add to the “Pessimistic” column Coaching, aside from Meeks of course. How is it after watching Jets’ CB Revis shut down Randy Moss twice (24 and 34 yards 1 TD) Panthers coaching staff sees fit to throw passes his way? Steve Smith is our only play maker at WR (being able to just catch isn’t enough) every one knows this and everyone knows how to stop him. Fox and Gump need to design plays that minimize Delhomme’s weaknesses (accuracy past 10 yards) and gets Smith the ball. Or put in Moore and wait for the rebuilding season either way go Panthers!

by bleed_in_blue on Nov 30, 2009 10:21 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Revis caught the breaks yesterday

His 2 INTs were lucky breaks for him. On his first, it bounced off Smitty’s heel and ricocheted directly into his arms – he was out of position on the play — a 1 in a million break! On the second, Smith had a step or two on him deep — has the pass been led properly, and not under-thrown, he’s have been burnt for the TD, And then there’s the other TD that Smith caught over him, in the left corner, that was overturned on review.

In the scorebook, Revis adds to his glowing rep, with 2 picks and a total shutdown of Smith… but for a few very lucky breaks, he’s burned twice for scores and has no picks. Like you said, a game of inches.

And I’ll add one thing here, about the “forced fumble” by Chris Harris: study the replay on that one — you’ll see that Harris has a bear-hug around the receiver’s waist, successfully restraining him from going in for the score (and for that, I give credit) — but the ball came loose, not by being dislodged by Chris, but by just being bobbled by the receiver, trying to stretch for the extra yard and the goal line. Chris never touched the ball, or his arm, to knock it free. I guess that’s a “FF”, but here again, the stat doesn’t tell the whole story.

by bigdavis on Nov 30, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We were lucky we didn't have anymore INT's

At the end of the game, Jake was basically “chucking” the ball in the air.

The balls again, were off target (either behind receivers or saiiling too high again).

Again, i maintain the game is passing him by…..

by univonc on Nov 30, 2009 11:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sure a lucky break that ball hit the way it did, but Revis made the play one in a million or not he made the play. And his second INT was not an under thrown pass Revis and Smith both had to jump for the ball, and if hadn’t cut in front of Smith then it would have been a major play the Panthers.

by bleed_in_blue on Nov 30, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

"his second INT was not an under thrown pass "

Look again — Smith had to come to a stop to wait for the ball, allowing Revis, who was a step behind him, to be in a better position to catch it. If the throw is in front of Smith, he takes it in stride, and either scores, or gets tackled inside the 10. Some INTs are earned, some just come to you by incorrectly thrown passes, or lucky tips or deflections. Revis got his by #2 and #3.

by bigdavis on Nov 30, 2009 11:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Jake’s passes had no power…and once again his pass was underthrown to Smith. If Smith could get some passes to him in stride…well – that would be a different story.

by boywonderncsu on Nov 30, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for salvaging what little bit of optimism there was from an overall abysmal and shameful game. Who would have thought we’d do so badly as to be passed by the 0-6 titans. They figured it out what needed to be changed, why couldn’t we? As the announcer said yesterday “Carolina has been slowly bleeding to death”. I had faith we’d patch ourselves up, get out of that funk, and plow through the competition. But it seems to me the will to do so just does not exist, and has not for weeks now. Where’s that team that played with such passion at the Arizona game, or the last Atlanta game? I just wonder why that team doesn’t show up for every game anymore.

I want our team to be one that I don’t have to give up hope when we’re down by a score or two at halftime.

by EyeSack on Nov 30, 2009 10:24 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Bah. This season’s a wash. Fox won’t put in Moore… Delhomme’ll keep throwing to the wrong team… we’ll finish at 6-10 if we’re lucky (hope I’m proven wrong).

Next season we’ll go 11-5… it’ll be a cake schedule against crappy teams… like it always is.

by scorpion12 on Nov 30, 2009 10:39 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yup...divisional match-ups will be NFC West and AFC North

with a #3 divisional seed means we will play the Bears (most likely) and Eagles or Giants.

I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com

by Jaxon on Nov 30, 2009 10:57 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Darin Gantt has a very intereting take on Delhomme

saying we should bench him fir a few weeks or so just to get his mental state back. your right about delhomme not being the same after an interception. hes chnged. we just need him to sit so he cann find the old jake.

by pantherpride on Nov 30, 2009 11:00 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I remembered that Jake and Steve Smith had intense discussions on the sideline in the past.....

They don’t even communicate anymore. Jake is despondant, and Steve is sulking.

The magic is gone.

by univonc on Nov 30, 2009 11:03 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Solid work (as always) James...

I am on the Meeks bandwagon officially now. I’ve had my doubts in the past, but the fact that the defense can play as well as they played yesterday with spare parts is enough evidence for me.

As for Jake, we all know what’s going to happen. Fox will come out and say that Jake “gives us the best chance to win” and will keep trotting him out there to lose for us. It’s definitely time for Moore to get the start, but we can’t fool ourselves and think it will happen.

Jake reminds me of Old Yeller — he’s sitting there, slowly dying — he’s a shell of his former self, and Fox has the shotgun pointed at his head with tears in his eyes telling him how much he still loves him, and that he’s a “damn good dog”.

Will he pull the trigger? Probably not, but he should — because Jake’s career is dying a slow and painful death, and sometimes it’s just best to put someone out of their misery so they can at least go out with a shred of dignity, rather than let them bleed to death.

Keeping Jake on the field ruins Jake’s legacy (to some degree) and ruins Moore’s potential for a career. How can he (Moore) have any confidence in himself if he can’t get in a game at this point with the way Jake is playing?

by bwsmith25 on Nov 30, 2009 11:33 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Another good post ( maybe you need to change careers)

I will only add that along with starting Moore they will hopefully look at Hunter Cantwell also. I believe he has a lot of talent and could be a QB in the NFL someday. In your comment about inches I agree, but the problem with that one play is Jake hit Steve in the heel not the head. He threw the ball late and should have seen that he was throwing after Steve had moved pass the intended point of contact. He’s just not seeing the field any longer. There are so many ideas about what is wrong with Jake and you say it’s a lack of confidence, but I say it’s a lack of ability late in his career. He is no less of a player now in his mind than he was to begin with, he just can’t make the plays. There is a biblical phrase the says “The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak” and that should just about sum it up for my feelings about Jake. I know I took the phrase out of context. I really think the defense stepped up and did their job even in the depleted condition they find themselves in at the moment. Our running game suffered because the offensive line couldn’t have stopped a bunch of grand ma’s yesterday and we don’t have a QB that is a weapon to enforce the running game. No one is afraid of Jake’s ability any longer. The Jets were in our backfield before our running game could come together, and the coaches are shooting themselves in the foot more and more each week.

by Cwilly1 on Nov 30, 2009 11:47 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I have a different view of ...

how long Jake was allowed to start. My take was to bench him after week 3 to let him clear his head and give Moore a shot to start for a while. Hey, they benched him in game 1 against Philly. Starters can be benched in the NFL, but Jake was unbenchable. The decision to keep playing the man could do irreversible damage to his psyche and may cost Fox his job. Time will tell. I am actually optimistic and looking forward to watching the game this weekend to see if changes are implemented and to see if the Panthers can win again.

The unknown commodity in Moore is just that…unknown; however, he has been looking a hell of a lot better as an option for weeks now.

by Davejinxer on Nov 30, 2009 11:52 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Keep the faith

Fans let’s keep the faith throughout this dissapointing year. Also does anyone know if it is a possibility for the panthers to sign Matt Leinart? That woulzd be a great solution to the qb situation. A young qb who knows how to win with an awesome running game to back him up.

by whitej5 on Nov 30, 2009 12:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good Work James

I always look forward to reading your work.

It’s clear that until we get solid play out of the QB position this team is going nowhere fast.

A random thought: I wonder how much of the offensive line’s confusion can be attributed to Jake…I saw jake changing the play at the line of scrimmage much more than he usually does. Perhaps there were some miscues? Perhaps Bearnadeu had to do too much thinking about the blocking schemes and ended up thinking rather than blocking

by GoodOl'NorthState on Nov 30, 2009 12:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t see solid blocking on running plays either on Sunday. So it leads me to believe that it was just a chaotic state of affairs all around.

Though I think you are partially correct, the offense did look a little lost when Jake was calling out multiple line adjustments.

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by James The Aussie on Nov 30, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Let's add to the scheme of confusion the receivers

Steve Smith “blew” a route? C’Mon Man!

Steve Smith has no sense of purpose. He is cruising at this point until next year.

The QB must be resolved or we will be dealing with another superstar that wants to get out of Charlotte.

by univonc on Nov 30, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think Jake's been trying to emulate Peyton Manning too much

I mean how much does it help to keep pointing out that (whoever’s playing MLB) “___’s the Mike!”? And Jake’s unable to vary his snap count — every play is “91, hut, hut.” You think every defense in the league doesn’t know when the ball’s gonna be snapped?

The audible’s haven’t been working, either. That may help when your OL’s been in place a long while, but with Wharton and Bernadeau in unfamiliar positions, it just confuses things. Our bread and butter in running the ball has been the counter, with the guard pulling and the RB cutting it back — didn’t see much of that yesterday — the straight ahead blocking didn’t work vs the 8-man fronts we saw.

We need some work with the X’s and O’s.

by bigdavis on Nov 30, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Optimism for Meeks

is something that I was scared to give at the beginning of the season. The variation of the cover 2 he runs seems to be working pretty well – even when we’re plugging in backups for our injured starters. I have extremely high hopes for next year, once our defense has time to absorb the system and also heal up!

by boywonderncsu on Nov 30, 2009 12:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

NFL Network..

is reporting Jake has a broken finger on his right hand.
I wonder if …
A) This will keep him from playing this Sunday.
B) If the injury is for real.

by Davejinxer on Nov 30, 2009 1:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Confirmed by Charles Chandler of Inside the Panthers

Fox: Delhomme has broken finger in right (throwing) hand, Moore may start

Coach John Fox announced today in his weekly Monday news conference that quarterback Jake Delhomme suffered a broken finger on his right (throwing) hand late in Sunday’s 17-6 loss to the New York Jets.

Fox said he became aware of the injury today, and that Delhomme apparently didn’t know he’d be injured Sunday until he had pain and swelling today.

Fox said it’s likely that backup Matt Moore will start out with the first team in practice Wednesday, greatly increasing the likelihood he’ll start Sunday vs. Tampa Bay. While Fox wouldn’t speculate on how long Delhomme could be sidelined, he made it clear Delhomme’s status is uncertain for the foreseeable future.

Fox also said Delhomme was hardly the main person to blame for the Panthers’ woeful performance on offense against the Jets, saying others on the offense played poorly also.

Other injuries sustained in the game included sprained ankles by running back DeAngelo WIlliams and receiver Dwayne Jjarett, and a sprained knee for defensive tackle Tank Tyler.

— Charles Chandler

by bigdavis on Nov 30, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

From the open thread yesterday.

Time for a sprained finger?
or some other vague injury that allows you to sit Jake, unless Matt stinks it up, and then Jake gets "better" quickly?

by panthersnbraves on Nov 29, 2009 2:15 PM EST

by panthersnbraves on Nov 30, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That sounds like something the WWE would script

all we need is a sequened cape with a “17” and Ric Flair yelling WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by univonc on Nov 30, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Blast from the PAST

hmmm…. maybe Fox makes Jake 3rd string QB so he doesn’t have to hear it from the fans, and his ego is protected (David Carr, anyone)…broken finger… I’ve got your broken finger…easy way to save face maybe, and ego’s…

by toonman on Nov 30, 2009 3:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Just think what Jake could have broken

If he connected with his receivers. Maybe a record?

No, Jake is not entirely to blame, but i sure would give him 90% of it at least.

by univonc on Nov 30, 2009 1:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think your "Overall assessment"...

sums up my feelings as well.
Also I just wanted to add , something Rex Ryan mentioned in his post game press conference regarding Revis getting lucky on his pick 6.
To paraphrase Ryan, he made the point that in the NFL, when a player is playing well he tends to get all the lucky breaks. Good play & good luck go hand in hand. He added that slumping players tend to always fall on bad luck. I think us Panther fans can vouch for the accuracy of that observation first hand.

by paydirt16 on Nov 30, 2009 2:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

because i don't want to do a separate fanpost - a taye biddle mention, remember him?

The UFL is looking to add two teams and to play a 10-week schedule next year. Look for the NFL — which has signed four UFL alums to active rosters or practice squads — to work out a few players, beginning this week. Florida quarterback Brooks Bollinger could catch on, along with running back DeDe Dorsey, wideout Taye Biddle, tackle Rob Pettitti and pass-rusher Josh Savage.

by usana_gaines on Nov 30, 2009 3:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

+1 Taye Biddle – Great player, played for us in the 07 pre-season, would love to see him come back.

So long as he doesn’t get shot again.

Double Trouble; we've got the best running backs in the NFL that never see the ball!

by D-Ranged1 on Nov 30, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

shaun rogers done for the year and might be on the way out of cleveland what do you guys think of his chances of being a panther next year? maake is done i think and damione is 32 next season and hollis is 35. maybe shaun rogers at NT backed by louis leonard. damione at DT backed by tank tyler and corvey irvin. i mean i know hes not what meeks looks for but he is a beast and would take 2 blockers

by ieatcrayons on Nov 30, 2009 3:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Interesting thought

The questions though…
1- How much money is Rogers going to want. I don’t think the Panthers have much room.
2- How bad is his injury? Will it affect his play?

And… do we let Meeks pick players that fit his system? (By we, I mean the GM & HC.) Or do we pick players for Meeks, and make him fit his system around them?

I’d lean towards the 2nd option… but I guess that depends on how much control the GM/HC want.

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by UtesFan89 on Nov 30, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice Job James!

This is getting to be, by far, my most favorite article of the week. I always enjoy reading it .

"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn

by Revshawn on Nov 30, 2009 7:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Last two games

The last games for the panthers involve teams that will probably be resting so the should really lighten things up. That means our only big challenge will be the patriots. Just cheer for the saints to clinch before week 16. I never thought i would be saying this but Go Saints beat the patriots.

by 12thomasal on Nov 30, 2009 9:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

One is missing..

I haven’t heard James Anderson’s name, but he came in and played very well in T.D.‘s spot. He flew around, and helped in shutting down the Jet’s run.

by nothinfiner on Nov 30, 2009 9:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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