The Wow we have a shot optimist
Surprisingly the panthers can pull out of the year with a playoff spot. The things that they have going for them are their 0 - 3 out of conference record meaning a higher in conference record and if they win out, their strength of victory (Vikings, Saints, Patriots, if they win these). If the Panthers win out the have a record of 9 - 7. This may not sound good but they would have the advantage over all other teams in a tiebreaker with them other than the Eagles. The sixth spot would be open for the panthers. The Packers would have to finish with a max record of 2 - 3, but they have Arizona, Baltimore, and Pittsburgh, all difficult games for them. This would leave them with a max total record of 9 - 7 which would be the same or less than the panthers. Then we would go through the tiebreaker:
- Head-to-head, if applicable. Not
- Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference. Anywhere from 8 - 4 to 7 - 5. If 8 - 4, then go to next (Panthers currently 4 - 4 and win out would give them 8 - 4 too)
- Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four. Common games: Vikings, Tampa, Dallas, Arizona. Green Bay record in these from 1 - 4 to 2 - 3 and if Panthers win out they will be 4 - 1
So the panthers would beat the packers in a tie-breaker. Next would be for the panthers to pass the Giants. The win out panthers will beat the Giants and force them to win all their games to finish 10 - 6 and out of the panthers but if they lose one other game, they will be 9 - 7 and tied with the panthers but will lose the tiebreaker against them because the panthers will have beat them.
Next in the list for the panthers to pass is the Falcons. If they finish with a maximum of 3-2 then their maximum finishing record will be 9 - 7 with the panthers. The tie-breaker this time would be:
- Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs). 1-1 for both
- Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division. Panthers would be 4 - 2, Falcons would be from 4-2 to 2-4. If it is 4 - 2 then go to next step.
- Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games. AKA worst record in uncommon games for panthers that would be The vikings and the Cardinals. If they win out then they will be 2-0 while the falcons uncommon games are Chicago and San Francisco, giving them a 2-0 record too.
- Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference. Panthers would be 8-4. Falcons would be anywhere from 6-6 to 8-4 if they get 8-4 then
- Strength of victory.If the Panthers win out with their schedule then they will most likely have better strength of victory. 99.99% sure.
After the Falcons, next in line would be San Francisco. If they lose at least one in-conference game then their max record is 9 - 7 and the tie-breaker comes in again:
1. Head-to-head, if applicable.Not
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.Carolina 8-4. San Fransisco 8 - 4
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.Common Games: Arizona, Atlanta, Philadelphia. Not enough
4. Strength of victory.Again The panthers would crush any team if they win out
Chicago would come next and have to win all their games. Carolina would beat them in Confrence.
So that's it. The Panthers will have an excellent shot if they win out. Here are the key Points for the Panthers to make the playoffs.
Panthers Win out 3.125%
Green Bay loses 3 of their next 5 50%
Giants lose one other game other than the Carolina game 93.75%
Atlanta loses 2 81.25%
San Francisco loses one In-Conference game. 93.75%
If all this occurs then the panthers are in the playoffs. 1.1157989502% (35.70556641% if they win out)
This is slightly low because it rules out Philadelphia collapsing and Arizona collapsing if San Francisco wins out. It also doesn't include rare situations where
There is still some hope
There is actually a weird very impossible way that the panthers could lose against the Buccaneers and the patriots and still get in but the would be near impossible.
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There isn't any hope at all really.
We had a little bit of hope going into this week, but after this week there is no way that the Panthers have anything to play for. Two straight losses against Miami and the Jets, teams that we should be able to beat even if we just had an AVERAGE QB in the nfl like a Chad Pennington or a Trent Edwards.
The most dissappointing thing of this whole debacle is that the Panthers defense are playing their hearts out. Each and every play they’re going out there, tired or not, and giving their last breath to defend our endzone against the hordes of evil. Time and time again they deny the opposing offense, just to watch our own offense go out on the field and freaking give them the ball at the 20 or 30 yard line. By the time the end of the 2nd half and the end of the game rolls around, they’re panting like crazy, hands on their legs, trying their best to disguise how tired they are.
We held Thomas Jones to just 75 yards on 25 carries. His backup Sean only got 36 with his 10 carries. And this is supposedly the #1 rushing offense in the nation. And don’t forget, this is AFTER the Panthers have given the ball away 4 separate times with Jake Delhomme.
Our defense can go back to their stadium with their head held high. On the other hand, Jake Delhomme and Jeff Davidson needs to do some serious soul searching. Jake Delhomme needs to sit to give Matt Moore a chance, and Jeff Davidson needs to be fired right now, on the spot, and we need to call up Bill Cowher and beg him, simply beg him to be our offensive coordinator. Or we can call up one of these up and coming college coaches with something to prove after the season is over and allow him to take control of the offense and get some of this razzle dazzle back into the playcalling.
Something needs to happen. We can’t just accept the easier schedule next year, hope that Jake Delhomme will rebound, and keep going the way that we’ve been going. I should make a detailed post later.
"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
i think alot of that defensive credit goes to
coachs ron meeks and john fox.
and most of the offensive blame goes to jeff davidson.
by carolinabrave89 on Nov 29, 2009 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
I agree 100% about the D. Everyone on the defense should be proud of the way they have played this year. They ALL deserve better than this. Another thing we should all seriously consider if we want a coaching change here: promote Ron Meeks to head coach. Crazy, but the guy has done wonders with a shorthanded defense and has been the only main coach to really produce results for his side of the ball.
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No way
Will Cowher come back to the NFL only as an offensive coordinator. Head coach on the other hand, well John Fox……
by SmithnCompany on Nov 30, 2009 1:28 AM EST up reply actions
If Fox stays...
and we fire Davidson, there is a possible option for OC. Charlie Weis. Yes, the Notre Dame coach. He’s probably going to be fired this year and Fox and him are friends. I think he’s one of those coaches that is lousy at being a head coach, but good as a coordinator. He was the OC for the Patriots while Brady was developing. So, we bring in some young QB(s) and see what happens.
There are a lot of IFs in this scenario, so it most likely will never happen.
great info
its amazing how when it seems all hope is lost that panthers fans find away to keep on hoping. i mean this almost seems like you had to look under a rock to find.
i think however the season is done. when you lose to the jets like that there is no way to recover. i just hope the new coaching staff keeps meeks. hes been the only really coaching positive of this whole thing,
Yeah, there is no hope for the playoffs....
So, let’s at least ruin the draft pick for the 49ers.

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