Dolphins Run Past Panthers 24-17
Ricky Williams scored three TD's and Panthers QB Jake Delhomme threw a key red zone INT as the Panthers folded when inside the 20 yard line. This game leaves me frustrated by tow of the same things the Panthrers have struggled with all season. QB Jake Delhomme's propensity to throw bad passes late in the game ends another Panther comeback. Poor play calling on 3rd down and in the red zone put the Panthers in the hole to begin with.
I'm not going to recap the numbers on offense, you can check the box score here. What you will see is two teams who generated similar levels of offense over the course of the game, but one team was able to finish their drives and the other could not. One defense was able to bring the pressure on the QB and the other could not (4 sacks to Zero). One defense was able to get a red zone turnover, the other wilted down the stretch.
Here are some quick hits:
- The Panthers were able to finally throw the ball downfield once the game was out of reach. TE Gary Barnidge made a very nice grab in the final minute to give us another hopeless chuck-a-prayer into the endzone.
- RB DeAngelo Williams was a bright spot but I'm sure most will agree with me he didn't touch the ball enough (13 carries, you must be kidding me)
- Dolphins RB Ricky Williams shredded the Panthers run defense for 119 yards and 2 TD's on the ground. We are missing LB Thomas Davis and is would seem the endurance questions about DT Hollis Thomas might bear out.
- WR Steve Smith had a good game with 87 yards and a TD. It just wasn't enough though.
- When three of your top four tacklers in a game play the secondary you know it was a tough day for the defensive line; A Dolphins 3rd down draw play that went for 17 on 3rd and 16 was a killer blow
- Kick coverage was again horrid. The Dolphins KR Ted Ginn averaged 42 yards on two returns.
The Panthers drop to 4-6 and now are on the brink of being out of the wildcard draw.
What do you have to say about this loss Panther fans?
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Yup...not much else to say.
Its seems its the same things that killed us early in the season
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by Jaxon on Nov 20, 2009 9:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
1st drive
When we attempted passes on 1st and 2nd down with 1st and goal, I knew then that the game plan was going to be all wrong and held little hope of the win.
by LittleKing on Nov 20, 2009 9:25 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Your second paragraph tells the story...
Kudos to Miami for making the plays needed to win the game. My biggest frustration is that I saw A Panther team that at the start of the game was fired up on both sides of the ball, and had the Dolphins on their heels.
by paydirt16 on Nov 20, 2009 9:44 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why Jake WHY?!?!?!
Jake is slowly killin me.. stop with the awful picks and what the hell was he doing in that final drive, instead of spiking the ball right away hes looking at the sideline with his hands up… wasted about 4-5 seconds.. hes just terrible.. RUN THE F’N BALL THATS ALL WE NEED TO DO!
by NJPanthers on Nov 20, 2009 9:48 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hard to balme this one on Jake....
He should never have been asked to throw the ball 42 times….that’s a recipe for disaster. This one comes down to coaching and play calling….I’m no Jake fan thought he should have been replace years ago and blame much of this seasons woes on him but not last night. When D Will is avg 9.4 YPC it’s difficult for me to understand throwing 3 times in a row with 1st and goal from the 7. The entire offensive coaching staff should go starting with Davidson….actually we can keep our OL Coach they have played well (with the exception of the three sacks yesterday but can’t blame the Gross injury on the coach).
by Lawboy987 on Nov 20, 2009 9:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The INT in the red zone hurt...
remember Jake got agitated because the ref wouldn’t let him hike the ball while the Dolphins were changing personnel…that was crap…the ref should have got out of the way. Then he short-arms the throw..badda bing. It was a terrible pass and should not have been thrown to begin with.
Jake didn’t necessarily play bad outside a couple throws but the bigger problem in my view is the lack of confidence the offense has in him. If you find the need to limit your playbook to suite the QB then maybe you don’t have the right QB. Or maybe…he just cannot make the throws consistently anymore. Take your pick
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by Jaxon on Nov 20, 2009 10:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree to a point
I agree that Jake didn’t necessarily make the best throws but will still argue the point that he should never had been asked to throw the ball 42 times. Our offense is not set up to be a 55% Pass to 45% run. With those numbers we lose. We should be at about 60:40 or 65:35 run to pass regardless of who is behind center, we don’t have a Tom Brady or Peyton Manning that should be throwing 60 to 65% of the time. Like I said I’m not a Jake fan but i still think this lands mor on Davidson’s sholders than Jakes.
by Lawboy987 on Nov 20, 2009 10:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We ran the first down.
God nothing.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Nov 20, 2009 11:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And then we should’ve ran the second and third.
Double Trouble; we've got the best running backs in the NFL that never see the ball!
by D-Ranged1 on Nov 20, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You ain't kiddin...
They should a got a super size order of DeAngelo with a side order of J-Stew…they should’ve been force fed all night long, till they got sick of the Carolina Value Menu.
by toonman on Nov 20, 2009 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What was the difference in the last 2 drives and the rest of the game?...
Jake was calling the plays from the line and Jeff Davidson was not reading plays off a crappy script on his clipboard telling Jake what to run. Who really thought it was a good idea to convert an Offensive Line Coach (from an offensive juggernaut in Cleveland) to an OC position? I’m not saying it’s all his fault but anyone who let’s Jake throw 42 times to D Will and J Stew’s 25 carries is a moron.
by Lawboy987 on Nov 20, 2009 9:49 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
SUPER FRUSTRATING
How does D-Will only get 13 carries? He looked extremely good coming off the edge, great blocking by the receivers all night…when they ran it…
Why did we keep passing in the freakin red zone, you run it all the way down, and then you’re going to try to pass it in? Never mind that the pass plays they call are horrible- they are stacking eight in the box all game, and are pass routes are all in that same “box”- nothing to stretch the safeties.
What good are offensive weapons if you dont know how to use them?
by toonman on Nov 20, 2009 10:00 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
+1 toonman
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by Jaxon on Nov 20, 2009 10:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I’m a big fan of NFL Hall of Fame sportswriter Ray Didinger and he often comments that all NFL coaches posess a common level of skill, talent & knowledge in understanding the game. However, the difference between success and failure in the NFL is the ability to put ones players in the best position to win, given the players specific talents and abilities.
I think that sums up the problem with Davidson. Otherwise he’s probably not a bad X’s & O’s guy.
by paydirt16 on Nov 20, 2009 10:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LET'S JUST GET THIS YEAR OVER
You can sit there and say it wasn’t Jakes’ fault but all he did was stink the game up. We could hardly get a first down. Their play was dismal and I do belive that some of that was because Thomas Davis and Jordan Gross are out and Peppers was a non issue, but Jake couldn’t throw a football in the back of a pickup truck from 50 feet. It will probably be like this for the rest of the season because I know Fox says the Jake gives us the better chance to win, I don’t think so. He gives us the better chance to lose, just look at this years results we arn’t even a 50% team. We can blame this on Davidson but I think right now he is just a pawn stuck between Jake and John. We have too much talent on our team to let this situation destroy our teams future.
by Cwilly1 on Nov 20, 2009 10:58 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hard to look good at QB when you have no time all night.
The O-line looke dpretty awful in pass protection.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Nov 20, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Again- coaching issue
Lets see, they are watching the same game we are…how about making some adjustments according to what is going on out on the field? We are terrible at making any kind of adjustments. If the pass blocking is breaking down, how about moving the pocket, or call some “quick-hit” plays. What ever happened to the old school quick slants, and outs- 3 step drop and get rid of it. Screens to D-Will should be pretty effective, getting him out in space where the big guys can get out and run block on a pass play, if that’s what they are better at…
How many blitzes did you guys see last night? 1..2..3? I think we put Henne on his back once, and he still got rid of it.
The killer for me was the 3rd and 11 in the 4th quarter! How is the receiver that wide open in the freakin middle of the field. That stop would’ve been huge, but then the wheels fell off the cart after that.
by toonman on Nov 20, 2009 12:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You answered yourself...
We are terrible at making any kind of adjustments.
Absolutely.
Double Trouble; we've got the best running backs in the NFL that never see the ball!
by D-Ranged1 on Nov 20, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why is it you hate Jake so much?
Clearly Davidson put Jake in a bad situation by asking him to throw 42 times when we all ALREADY knew he hasn’t been that great this year.
Jake does great when HE calls the plays, yet does terrible when Davidson calls them. With this, you’re telling me Jake is horrible and Davidson is stuck in the middle? Hardly.
If anything, Jake is stuck with an OC that can’t call the right play to save his life.
I understand you don’t like Jake but sometimes you seem to try extremely hard to pin the whole game on him instead of those that made the mistakes. Sure, he had that INT but I still wonder why the ref wouldn’t let him spike it. That would’ve given us the first down and possibly lead way for us to actually, wait… wait for it…. yes! Run the ball!
Yes, Jake did terribly yet he should’ve never been asked for more than 15 or so passes.
Double Trouble; we've got the best running backs in the NFL that never see the ball!
by D-Ranged1 on Nov 20, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We missed three players last night:
Gross on offense
Johnson on defense
Peppers on defense.
Wait, Peppers was suited up and active? Ugh.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Nov 20, 2009 11:14 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Davis wasn't missed?
I’m confused
by SmithnCompany on Nov 21, 2009 1:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Messed up hand
And he did force a fumble, we just couldn’t capitalize.
by Flowing Willow on Nov 21, 2009 8:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hard Luck
On a tough loss in a hard fought game. I keep saying DeAngelo is the most underrated player in the league, i have no idea why they stopped giving him the ball.
Good luck the rest of the way, lots of respect to the Panthers.
It takes a man to suffer ignorance and smile
by MoLimits on Nov 20, 2009 11:34 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks MoLimits..back at you!
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by Jaxon on Nov 20, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What we missed were good play calls
I mean common, we have Steve Smith, why the heck can’t we get some plays that hit him on the run? These routes that eliminate his ability to run with the ball are pathetic. We didn’t use a 3 receiver set until late in the fourth quarter, so everything was jammed tight all night long. I’m no offensive genius, but man, be creative- how about a 2 back set D-Will and Stew in at the same time, at least make the defense wonder who’ll get the ball!
Then you could put D-Will in motion, get him in the slot with Smith, that could open up all kinds of possibilities… and we use TE’s entirely wrong. If the safeties are in all night long, if you are going to pass, where are the 10-15 yard routes, and for God’s sake put more people out in the patterns. Oh, and QUIT THROWING INTO DOUBLE AND TRIPLE COVERAGE!
by toonman on Nov 20, 2009 11:35 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I hear ya...
We’ve been wishing for such all year but it simply isn’t happening :(
Double Trouble; we've got the best running backs in the NFL that never see the ball!
by D-Ranged1 on Nov 20, 2009 12:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A MESS
Right now this team is just a mess. Each one if us has our spots we think need fixing but overall it’s just a pitiful mess and I hope Mr Richardson has the guts to stepup and make the necessary moves to fix it. I think it is wrong to say someone hates Jake when we just believe his days are over and he needs to move over and give someone else a chance to lead the team. I have liked what Jake has done for this team but when you get long in the tooth it’s time to give it up.I think we should go right pass Moore and give Hunter Cantwell a chance to shine. Too many media people say Moore is just unprepared to step in and take over. I hate to see a young man that had a chance and blow it but that looks like what he has done.
by Cwilly1 on Nov 20, 2009 12:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Jerry Richardson...
I wonder how he is doing healthwise…I knew he needed a heart transplant at one point.
by J-Mid. on Nov 20, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Partly Agree
I’m not a Jake hater either, I wished he could turn things around, but how many games do you relegate your #1 quarterback to mostly hand the ball off- because when he throws 42 times he can’t complete at least half of them? He easily could’ve had 3 picks instead of 1. Safety dropped one, and another to King in tight double coverage was a bit scary.
Sad thing is, anyone they stick behind center, would still be subject to the same lack of faith that Jake is shown in play selection. Question is can any of the other 2 make the better read, and execute better with what few passes they are asked to make.
I can’t figure out what opportunity was blown by Matt Moore? Seems I recall he got a few “w’s” under his belt, and in my opinion he has the best arm of all of them.
by toonman on Nov 20, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think we’re all in agreement that Jake need step back now and let the back-ups see what they can do, our season is all but over. I just feel that Davidson is ruining Delhomme’s rep with his stupid play calling. Although Delhomme is the best QB we have ever had, he’s going to leave with the rep of an INT machine to most fans that don’t really look beyond the immediate players and thus will never receive the recognition he deserves as a Panther.
Double Trouble; we've got the best running backs in the NFL that never see the ball!
by D-Ranged1 on Nov 20, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's say Moore gets the nod to start...
and plays better than Jake. How would that make Fox look after standing behind Jake for the season thus far?
by Davejinxer on Nov 20, 2009 12:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Loyal to a fault..
As we know that he is.
Double Trouble; we've got the best running backs in the NFL that never see the ball!
by D-Ranged1 on Nov 20, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Learn from BoSox Grady Little
Yep…loyalty sometimes is a cruel bed mate… I recall Grady Little letting Pedro stay out for one more batter, his ace said he was ready for the challenge, it was his game… well the batter was thinking the same thing…
Sometimes you have to be the Head Coach, not the best friend, and make the hard decision. It has to be made on effectiveness, are you or are you not getting the job done. On paper it’s one thing, inside the white lines is a whole nother story. How do you know what you have or don’t have if you don’t get them on the field for a while. Andy Reid wasn’t above benching his man for a game, and look what that did- fired up a competitor to go back after it!
I don’t know… you want to root for these guys but the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and over again, expecting a different result…panther’s are the hamsters inside the insanity wheel…
by toonman on Nov 20, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
toonman
Referenced that same exact quote from Einstein on insanity about three weeks ago. Nothing has changed all the same.
by Davejinxer on Nov 20, 2009 4:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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