A Conversation with Tank Tyler
The Panthers on Monday made a third move since the start of training camp to address problems at defensive tackle, trading for Tank Tyler. Carolina dealt a 2010 fifth-round draft pick to the Chiefs for the 24-year-old Tyler, in his third year out of N.C. State. Carolina on Tuesday released defensive tackle Antwon Burton to make room for Tyler, who is expected to split snaps with Hollis Thomas (signed as a free agent Oct. 1), Damione Lewis and Nick Hayden.
The 6-foot-2, 306-pound Tyler, a Fayetteville native, is excited about retunring to his home state and playing again in a 4-3 defense. He lined up in a 4-3 for his first two seasons in Kansas City, but moved to nose tackle when the Chiefs switched to a 3-4 this season.
CSR spoke to Tyler, whose real name is DeMarcus, Wednesday afternoon at his locker. The 2002 Shrine Bowl starter and aspiring music manager was in good spirits...
Tyler is "extra happy to be back" in North Carolina, he says. He had been surprised when Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli met with him Monday and told him he had been traded. Kansas City used a third-round pick to get him. He started all 16 games last season, plus the first two games this year. He was benched for the last four games, but still has registered 22 total tackles this season.
His heart dropped when Pioli told him he had been traded, he said Wednesday. Then when he heard where he was going, he was thrilled.
"I wasn't playing (hardly) at all" in Kansas City, he said. "I just wanted the opportunity to play some football...I'm blessed to be back home."
"I'm comfortable (in the 4-3)," he added. "This is my natural defense. I've played this my whole life. I really like this (Carolina) defense."
Tyler says he prefers the 4-3 because, with four down linemen, he has more freedom to attack the ballcarrier. (3-4 defenses typically rely on defensive linemen to occupy offensive linemen so the linebackers can make plays). He consider himself more of a run-stopper than pass rusher (he has no career sacks).
Playing in the 3-4 was a bad fit for Tyler, according to reports out of Kansas City. One report said Chiefs officials thought he was "not mean enough, quick enough or sharp enough" to be a starting nose tackle.
"I think they need to come back and watch the film," he responded Wednesday. "I'm not a cocky guy. I'm not going to say I was the best at it...I think I did well when I was in that position."
Tyler is not sure of his role in Carolina yet, he said. He expects to work at both defensive tackle spots and hopes to play a lot more this season, but he's not even sure if he will be active Sunday against Buffalo. He did add: "They told me they're looking for me to play right away."
(Longterm, Tyler figures to get every chance to become a regular in Carolina. He's young, cheap and healthy. And, although Tyler says he is not under contract for next season, with the likelihood of an uncapped year coming in 2010, he would not be an unrestricted free agent in the offseason).
Tyler certainly hopes to play Sunday. He expects several family members to attend the game, along with former N.C. State teammate Martrel Brown. Former Wolfpack teammate John McCargo is expected to play for the Bills at defensive tackle.
They will be in the stadium where Tyler watched his first live NFL game. As a high school student, he attended a Panthers-Saints game (he's not sure what year it was).
But that nugget is probably the least interesting thing about Tyler. Here's something far more interesting: That's a link to "Welcome to the Carter," a song that Tyler says he wrote, produced and rapped on his own about N.C. State football. ("Carter" is Carter-Finley Stadium). It sounds about as good as any southern hip-hop track.
Tyler doesn't have any raps about the Panthers yet, but he does run a small record label. He is producing two unreleased albums, he says, and manages a 13-year-old female pop/rock singer. That work could be his post-football career.
"You've got to lean back on something," Tyler says. But, he added, "It'll never get in the way of football."
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I don't know the contract status of all the interior lineman we have
But I have to think Kemo, Leonard, Tyler and the ol’ vet Thomas should be the front four for next year’s rotation at d-tackle. Lewis is ok, but he’s more of a tweener for me as he isn’t the best “run stuffer” and lacks the burst to work at end.
Though I could be wrong and just overthinking the whole thing.
im pretty sure we wont see kemo anymore
hes getting some age on him and hes quite expensive
by carolinabrave89 on Oct 21, 2009 7:39 PM EDT reply actions
fine by me
Because imo, we actually have some legit depth behind him.
We don't need him
He is way over paid for an average DT whose best quality is just being fat. Of course Hollis is getting old and will probably not hold up the entire season, meaning we will probably need another stud DT come next year.
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Provided Ron Meeks is able to continue his defensive philosophy...
I don’t think we’ll see the ‘big body in the middle’ be the modus operandi much longer in Charlotte.
If he’s allowed to truly run the defense how he sees fit we’ll see more smaller, athletic DTs like Tyler in the future.
We should feel pretty good about Meeks to be honest, the Colts are currently:
- 7th in the NFL in total defense
- 9th against the pass
- 14th against the run
This is with all players he put in place before leaving for Carolina, and Bob Sanders has been out all season.
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
If you're going to be successful in a 3-4, you better have a friggen juggernaught at DT.
I’m glad to see Tank Tyler here in Carolina. For a 5th rounder, he will be a great asset to our team.
I full expect Kemo to be cut though. He’s a very expensive piece to our D-Line, and with all the guys we have brought in and him getting up there in age I expect him to be cut to get us some cap space. He’s due a 9.3 million bonus in March along with 750K. That’s a big bloody chunk of change we’ll be saving.
So if Nick Hayden retains his old spot, it will be a competition between Louis Leonard, Corvey Irvin, Nick Hayden, and Hollis Thomas for the other DT spot.
"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
+1
I feel we caught a major break getting Tyler, like we lucked out solely because he didn’t fit into a 3-4.
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
So you think
That Tyler will have one of the tackle positions locked up by the start of next season?
Maybe, maybe not
But a 5th round pick is a very low risk investment on someone who can help us and challenge at the position.
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
by James Dator on Oct 21, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he might.
A good part of it depends on how Corvey Irvin develops. We might actually have all the DT’s we need right now if Tyler comes out and pulls off a show. It will still be one of the most important positions we’ll look to handle in FA and the Draft, but it goes from an “OH S***” problem to a “Well that’s a bummer.”
I’m interested to see how he plays on Sunday.
"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
If you guys plan on Tyler being the Starter Next Year...
Prepare to be in the bottom half of the league in Run Defense. I like the kid, he does good as a 7-15 plays a game guy. He has trouble getting off of double teams and cant shed blockers. He is very strong and I beleive he will develop into a good DT in 2-3 years time. His mechanics arent good and his effort is questionable. I do believe you got a good deal on him. I think in 2 years he could be a very good player.
Those are all positions of skill that can be taught, though, not natural ability. Perhaps coming home and going back to his preferred scheme will provide him the boost he needs. If he warrants a double team, that’s one less guy our other tackle and ends need worry about.
I think he’ll be a solid option. Cant wait to see him play.
He wont command a double team in the 4-3...
He was double teamed often in the 3-4 though. Like I said after watching him in preseason and his whole career. It will be awhile before he is any good and he will never be a top 20 DT in the league. Probably just depth.
by darwithabar on Oct 22, 2009 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Before we start calling the kid the second coming...
Let’s see if he can play first.
Now is not the time to be talking about next year’s depth. We need to watch him and see if he indeed is the now or the future. I think we made a smart move, and the scouting sounds good, but until i see him in electric blue and black on a sunday afternoon, I’m going to assume nothing.
I agree
This kid was being called a bust even when the Chiefs played a 4-3. I’m excited about him just as much as you guys, he’s a player I wanted back when he was a rookie. This also sets our DT’s up very nicely, nicely enough to hold off on drafting a DT for at least another year. At the nose guard we have Kemoeatu, Thomas, Leonard, and Tyler, at the under tackle we have Lewis, who is a good starter with someone eating blocks next to him, Irvin, Hayden, and Leonard as well, from what I saw he could play both.
by Flowing Willow on Oct 22, 2009 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions


















