Top Ten Reasons We're Now A Winner
Let's celebrate awhile.
Sure there bad plays and missed assignments, but for this thread, anyway, I want to concentrate on what went RIGHT that contributed to our first win.
#10 -- Captain JON BEASON -- say what you want about the public forum he chose to call out Julius Peppers, but I give him the initial credit for the win, for stepping up in his leadership role, and in effect, saying "man up" to the team. Plus his 10 tackles and sack didn't hurt, either.#9 -- Picking up HOLLIS THOMAS as soon as the Rams let him go. The fat guy stepped in and stepped up, allowing our LB's to avoid the blockers that had been in their faces in previous games. Run defense in the middle problem? Solved. Looked to me like he played as well as or better than Kemo ever had. Worry about next year, next year, when he'll be a year older. This year, unless he, too, gets hurt, we can forget about Nick Hayden getting pushed around any more.
#8 -- DEFENSIVE LINE play in general was excellent. TYLER BRAYTON won't get a lot of press on this game, but it was his blow to Chris Samuels on their 2nd play of the game that gave him the "stinger" that floored him and knocked him out of the game, allowing pressure on their subs at OT to lead to subsequent sacks later on. And -- though Thomas Davis is given credit for the tipped pass in the 4th quarter that stopped their drive -- if you look at the film, it was actually Brayton who got up and tipped the pass, before Davis had a shot at it. EVERETTE BROWN got his first sack of the season on a nifty spin move that I doubt any OT in the league could've handled. This is encouraging for the future -- we CAN get sacks on QB's who don't get the ball out in 3 counts.
#7 -- JULIUS PEPPERS deserves separate credit -- he played his best game of the year, better than the showing he put out against Philly. He can apparently take a scolding (see #10 above) and react positively. If he can maintain this level of intensity, our DL will function adequately, and if that happens, all the guys behind them can make plays.
#6 -- CHRIS HARRIS return was bigger than we hoped for -- all that talk about what a weapon Chris Cooley was gonna be, and how we never could handle a TE, anyway? Cooley was shut down with -0- catches!
#5 -- JOHN FOX's play calling has been castigated here and elsewhere, but I salute him on going for it on 4th and goal. Never mind that Hoover coughed it up, and we came away with no points. Too many head coaches would've settled for the chip shot FG, but he sent his players a message that he's coaching to win, and I like that. Think for a moment what would've transpired had we taken the FG -- now down 7-3, we kick off to the Skins, and they start a drive from their 20 (Lloyd had 3 touchbacks in the game, earning his salary) -- but instead, they have to start backed up in the end zone, and before you know it, we've earned a 2 point Safety, gotten a big adrenalin boost, and had them kick to us, rather than the other way around! In effect, we sacrifice 1 point for a possession change. Then later on, with the game on the line, he has the guts to call (or approve) the naked bootleg play that seals the win. (More on that below.) I think the guy's got class, and despite his not wearing his heart on his sleeve with the media, I love him as our coach. It's popular to call for his head, and Jake's, and Hurney's -- but let's face it -- in your heart, aren't you glad you root for a team that's got that class?
#4 -- THOMAS DAVIS continues to put forth Pro Bowl production at LB. I don't know how they credit the Safety, whether to him or to Peppers -- either of them would've taken down Portis, since Sellers made no block on anybody, it's more blame on him than anything else. But Davis was in the backfield, and is shooting the gaps he sees with such regularity that he may be the MVP on the Panthers right now.
#3 -- Our SPECIAL TEAMS has gotten a lot of deserved criticism (no more so than by me) for their shoddy play in the first 3 games, but they really came up big yesterday. Only allowing 3 yards to the Skins on 4 punts was outstanding. We had 9 guys around the receiver on the fumbled punt, with QUINTON TEAL and DANTE WESLEY getting the credit for the crucial turnover. JASON BAKER'S punts were as good as RYHS LLOYD'S kickoffs -- unreturnable.
#2 -- KENNETH MOORE has just won the return job, in my mind. His 55 yard return on the kickoff, just after they'd scored, turned the momentum back to our side. He made some nice moves on that return, as opposed to what we'd been accustomed to seeing from others: just running into the pile, or bobbling the ball. And I think he's caught every ball thrown to him this year. (Anybody see Dwayne Jarrett? Did he make the trip to BofA stadium?)
#1 -- who else? JAKE DELHOMME, God love him, is the heart of the Panthers. He shook off the INT (not entirely his fault, as to my mind, Moose should've either caught it or prevented the pick) -- whereas a QB with less resolve, given the history of the last 3 games, and the criticism he's heard, would've then pressed and made more mistakes. He shows such love of the game, and I'd rather root for his success, and his emotion, and his drive, than back one of the many robotic QB's in the league who may have better mechanics. The bootleg was quintessential Delhomme -- unexpected, awkward, yet he made it, dragging DeAngelo Hall the final 3 yards to pick up the 1st down, to seal the win.
Go, Panthers!
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Nice post bigdavis
10. Per Gantt I think Beason got in trouble for saying he would talk to Pep. But hey…something worked…the guy played well
9. What a great pick-up he has been already. Thank you Rams!
8. I noticed Brayton played well too. He is good against the run.
6. I never realized Harris was so key tot he D but I noticed they shadowed Cooley everywhere he went
5. I didn’t mind going for it on 4th down but didn’t like the play call…but hey, it worked out
4. I regret not adding Davis to my player of the game poll. I agree he played very well and made some key plays.
3. Very good points on the punts and the coverage…much improved
2. I would say Moore has earned the job for another week
1. Jake showed why I love him…
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I'm buying what you're selling bigdavis!
Can’t disagree with any of it… nice work!
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
"in your heart, aren't you glad you root for a team that's got that class?"
Absolutely!
I never realized the importance of that until this season.
I'm digging it..
Especially point # 5. Classiness is underrated these days.
i completely love the fact that we are a smashmouth football team
but we do it with class
by carolinabrave89 on Oct 12, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Great post!!!
Looking forward to another one next monday… The cardiac cats are back and they are starting to get warmed up… However, I did noticed in the first half, that Jake was frustrated with the coaching staff telling them they have to get the plays in faster… After half-time, they got on the same page and took care of business…
by MidnightDrifter on Oct 12, 2009 4:44 PM EDT reply actions
More on #8 - Tyler Brayton
I went back and rechecked that key play of the 3rd quarter. They’ve got it on our 37, 4th and 3, 2:39 left in the quarter; they’re still ahead 17-9.
Jason Campbell makes a quick drop, and on 2 counts, he’s got the ball in the air on a slant route that will surely be caught and keep their drive alive.
But Brayton alertly gets his arm up and deflects the pass at the LOS — ball goes over to us.
The announcer credited Thomas Davis (who also had his hand up, and picked up the incompleted pass, with the deflection) — but it was Brayton. He played a helluva game, and not just on run defense. Kudos, Tyler.
Must agree with you..
Such a wonderful feeling the day after we win..
Top Reason we'll be losing again soon...
You made a nice little list here and some good points, BUT you are forgetting the key reason we still STINK and will continue to stink if it is not solved…..
THE RUNNING GAME! We could not run at all against the Skins! Heck, DeAngello had below a 2yd per carry avg!! If we continue to be stuffed at the line and not open up any holes for our backs, we will stink…..here’s what’ll happen: We can’t run and we end up in 3rd and long which we won’t be able to convert so we keep punting….then eventually we lose field position with this and/or our defense gets tired from being on the field all day because our offense can’t…then Jake is forced to throw since running isn’t working, and he gets picked….
I’ve seen this a million times!!! Our entire team philosophy/strategy is based on the run, and if we can’t do that, we will struggle!! So despite all of these positives above, IF WE CAN"T RUN THE FREAKING BALL, WE WILL STRUGGLE!!!
no but you have to be optimistic in the forth quarter when we started getting it going offensively
we finally figure it out
panthers will be 3-3 by the arizona game, think youve seen inspired football? wait til delhomme gets another crack at the team that destroyed our perfect season.
by carolinabrave89 on Oct 12, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I had the same concerns but I think Cyberjag makes a good point (in another thread I think)
As long as we at least have the threat of running the ball the play action will continue to work…and work well. There is still plenty to be negative about still jkp and your concerns are real. But I think the Panthers showed they can still win even when the running game isn’t working, provided the play calling takes advantage of what the defense is giving.
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Granted, DeAngelo had less than 2 ypc
However, Jonathan Stewart was averaging 5.8 ypc in the 4th quarter to make up for it. When the team utilized Stewart as the feature back the running game was very effective.
One of the luxuries of a two headed monster is you can switch players out who are underperforming easily. This is especially valuable to a team who lives and dies by the run like we do.
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by James Dator on Oct 12, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
In other words, give it to the hot hand.
jkp1516 – the OL is struggling a bit. Once they find their grove the run game will be better. On top of that, the Redskins DL is pretty good. It’s the ’skins offense that is really their problem.
OL found their groove
(Thought I’d revisit this topic, before the thread disappears. Remember how only 8-9 days ago, a lot of us felt we couldn’t run the ball anymore?)
Groovy.
Thanks for urinating on the parade.
There are plenty of negative threads, with justification — even on this blog.
I just thought it’d be nice to focus on the good things for a change. Sorry your glass is half empty. Mine’s half full — in life, as well as rooting for a team.
But to reply to your point, you haven’t seen it “a million times” from the Panthers. Did you not witness their dominating running game last year? Maybe if Albert Haynesworth played for every team in the league, we’d have similar problems. But he doesn’t. I think you’ll see big rushing numbers next week.
Especially next week
We’ll stay commited to the run, Talib can be burned so expect us to go to the run early to set up the playaction. Washington knew if they stacked the box and dared us to run, they’d have a good chance of stopping us. Tamp Bay will try the same thing, only this time we’ll have a week of film to adjust. We’ll be able to run, we have too much talent not to be able to.
by Flowing Willow on Oct 13, 2009 6:56 AM EDT up reply actions
"Too much talent not to be able to do so"
Hey, I also think we have enormous talent, but I am just not seeing them execute like they should or play to their potential…AND that is my concern!!
Woah, just chill out a little bit, huh??
BigDavis, you are obviously missing my point and taking this as a personal jab (which it is not!)
Like I said before, you make some good points!! BUT the thing that is missing the most on this list (which concerns me the most) is our running game!!!!! I am simply arguing that it is the basis for our entire team’s success!!
By the way, I also like look at life half full, but in my eyes I am simply seeing things realistically here…I just do not want to think like your “parade:” (OHH HORRAY!!!, We won one game against one of the worst teams in the NFL by a very small margin in which we failed to do what we do best, YIPPEE!!!!) <—— That’s just not realistic to me….all I am saying is that although these points are valid, we are going to struggle the rest of the year if we cannot run the ball, and right now we haven’t figured that out!!
And I would love for your prediction to come true——> for the panthers to see “big rushing numbers next week” …BUT I just wouldn’t count on it as in 4 games (=1/4 of the season) we have failed to do that….it’s like saying that “ohh its going to rain big time next week I can just feel it!” when we are in a big drought with no signs of rain—-there is really nothing SO FAR that would prove that conjecture to be very imminent and possible…
"-there is really nothing SO FAR that would prove that conjecture to be very imminent and possible…"
I was basing that prediction on the fact that TB ranks 28 in rushing defense, having yielded an average of 152.6 YPG and 4.7 YPC — it would’ve been more, except that their first loss, to Dallas, didn’t require the Cowboys to run much, since Romo was shredding them with the pass.
And our next opponent, Buffalo, is just as bad against the run.
So there is something SO FAR — just not from us. LOL
I think
it has much to do with teams deciding they are going to shut down the run and make Jake beat you throwing the ball. Wouldn’t that be what you would do if you were the coach playing the Panthers? Jake leads the league in INT’s and has a five game streak going. No matter how good you are running the ball any team can shut it down by stacking the box. The Panthers are going to have to throw the ball to win this season.
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Bucs play a lot of man coverage
Granted Aqib Talib is a good corner — but Smitty has put up good numbers vs the Bucs in the past, and he must be salivating at the rare opportunity to go up against something other than double coverage. I look for him to break one, at least.
the points i think you have to think about
someone posted in an earlier blog how pepper’s stats compared to other defensive ends. his best days are always against the worst teams…the same was said about all the DE’s, I think. So was this really Pep playing harder, or playing against a worst team. I think the Redskins suck, for real. They are 2-3 and have not played a single team that had a win when they played. Now they face another winless team next weekend. We couldn’t run the ball against a team that sucks horribly. It reminds me of our wins last year against the Raiders and Lions. I’m glad we got the win, though. I think that even an ugly win helps motivate people for the next game. For example, i’ll bet there are people on the team who knew they should’ve played better, like our OL run-blocking. They’re glad they got the win, but they know they have work to do. They also know that if they step it up a little bit, we can be 3-3 in a couple weeks. I don’t care what your schedule looks like, or how weak the competition, going from 0-3 to 3-3 is a real momentum builder. Look for us to build on that 4th quarter and get some big wins. The defense was stinkin it up the last 9 games of last year and the beginning of this year. the last two games, they’ve played well. Jake was more hated than the taliban by some people, but he’s playing as well as last year’s 12-4 jake over the past two games. the only thing that isn’t really clicking is our running game. when that gets going, we could roll right into the playoffs. even against losing teams, playing well breeds confidence and trust. with that, and our level of talent, we could be right back in the thick of things soon. if we were 4-2 and the saints were 6-0, we would still think we could win the division. well we are currently only 2 games out for the division lead. let’s see what happens next.
Saints could get a loss this week versus the Giants
Falcons the same vs the Bears. If we keep winning, then that’s all we have to do. I think you somewhat missed my point jkp, we have too much talent to keep struggling in the run game, especially against weak Tampa Bay and Buffalo defense’s coming up.
by Flowing Willow on Oct 14, 2009 3:48 AM EDT up reply actions
All but #2 and #3 are still in play, through 7 games.
#7, 8, 9, and 10 have even become more vital to our success.

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