Redskins vs. Panthers Game Day Open Thread
by Jaxon on Oct 11, 2009 12:00 PM EDT
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The bye week is over and we are finally back to some football. I'm thinking the Redskins provide just the kind of red meat the Panthers are needing. Besides these guys are in complete disarray, calling each other out for poor play:
"These guys love each other. They absolutely love each other," Zorn said. "This is just how a team goes. I thought it was great. There's no fisticuffs. There's no shoving and pushing. These guys just, you know, ah, 'You didn't say hi to me.' 'No, you didn't say hi to me.' You know? I don't know really what the discussion was.
"In reality it's just a lot of nudging and posturing. It's just something that goes on. These guys are like brothers. And they care about each other. Seriously, it's not an issue."
When has calling out other players, Pro Bowl players at that, not hurt a team?
The Panthers defense will also have some key players back on the field as LB Na'il Diggs and SS Chris Harris return from injuries. Couple that with the recent acquisition of very-veteran DT Hollis Thomas and we should have a re-energized defense.
The biggest question mark is on special teams. RB Mike Goodson has been ruled out of the game from a concussion suffered during the Cowboys game two weeks ago. That leaves an opening at kick returner that we are still unsure who will fill. Beyond that the Panthers have hopefully been working on their kick coverage. They are currently the worst team in the league and it has been putting our defense in a hole.
If you are watching the game from home please join us and let us know what you think.
This in now an Open Thread!!
After the jump I have suggestions for an alternative strategy to motivate DE Julius Peppers:
I don't think Jon Beason's pep talk is going to work. Here's what they need to do instead. If Peppers hasn't done anything by halftime Meeks should bench Peppers until Pep asks to go back in the game. I think they should just embarrass the guy. The thought here is no way is he going to be a Panther next year anyway so its time to learn to win without him. Bench him and make him prove he is going to play hard to let him sit on the bench and face the ridicule of the fans behind the bench. It will be a leading story all week on ESPN and it will drive Pep nuts. Or it will push him further but who cares if that is his response. We can then trade him with a clear conscious by the Oct 20th deadline for whatever we can get for him.
This is provided he sucks again today against Chris Samuels, a LT he should be able to do something against. Thoughts?
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On the light rail headed to the game
Packed as usual, but the passengers don’t seem quite as enthusiastic. I wonder why? ;)
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by southtunnel on Oct 11, 2009 12:25 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Two weeks of guessing end now.
Has a fire been lit?
Can the Panther’s rebound?
Like always, cautiously optimistic
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Todays inactives:
AJ Feeley, T Sutton, CJ Wilson, G. Williams, Goodson, Robinson, Burton, H. Taylor
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wow...just wow
The refs get 25 seconds to blow the whistle now i guess
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Nothing like spotting a team 7 points when you're 0-3
So much for all our praise heaped on D-Will and the fact he never fumbles…2 already this season
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If all we do is run it will be 3 and outs all day long
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Very...I'm realizing I don't have enough beer for this game
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Anyone see that pass from Mcnab to Maclin??
do u guys think jake has that capability??
There we go...
Lets go ahead and chalk up everything to jitters… lets be optimistic
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Sack by Everette Brown!!!!
He coooked Batiste
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Beautiful spin move
NOW THAT IS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT!!!
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I'm with you. Give it to Stewart over the right side
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Just go for it fags!!!!
Trying to draw them off…freaking suck!!
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Why dont we every run Hoover anymore?
He’s our best bet to get those short yards
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Williams would have ahd the first if Moose didn;t get in his way
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Can someone tell me why that wasn't holding on Beason on the screen?
The guard had him by the pads
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I dont blame him..he isnt even really trying
and even u can agree that he is half assin everything
our o-line is not as good as the hype
sorry James, feeling pessimistic today
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Our wildcat is pathetically horrible
Least we could do is put Smitty in motion and at least threaten with an end around.
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i dunno but it has got to stop..
i think we can get more yards w/ out normal running game
TOUCHDOWN HOOVER
Please see my comment about 10 up whenI asked why we dont run him anymore
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who the hell cares
who recovers it?
pure BS
by chillicothe20 on Oct 11, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
it's the rule
someone else can’t advance the ball
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It's been a rule for quite a while
if someone fumbles, someone else can’t recover it and advance the ball
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Why couldn't you just argue the player meant to pitch the ball?
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because then
it’d be an illegal forward pass
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Hoover?
If Hoover recovers in the end zone, its a TD
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Yeah
It can’t be recovered by someone else in the end zone.
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Yeah
I think it’s an “inside the red zone” thing.
Whoever fumbles has to recover
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Was it a fumble
What’s the definition of a fumble? Cause it sure didn’t look like the ball hit the ground. Looked like more to me King pulled it out of his arms and ran it into the EZ….
Still bogus on our part that we can’t score 1st and goal. Where’s our O-line?
I can't believe there wasn't a better angle on that play
Safety!!!
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Chalk one up for Pep
It makes me happy to say that
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Absolutely
kudos to Beason too for getting the endzone crowd loud
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I don't know...
1- No conclusive evidence he got in
2- That’s been a rule forever… if you fumble in the end zone, you have to be the one recovering it.
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90% of QBs could have fumbled... he didnt see it coming
Failing to step into the pocket…thats on Jake
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??????????????? you got me?
J. Sullivan
by pantherpackcaniac on Oct 11, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I think if Fox is coaching like he’s going to be fired then the season’s over
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Why not open it up then?
J. Sullivan
by pantherpackcaniac on Oct 11, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the article is alot of guessing
Personally, I find it hard to believe Foxy would roll over and die so soon
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According to rotoworld
he’s told friends that he’s expecting to be fired after the season
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Then f****ing try something different!
Everyone knows our game plan. (“the NFL is an extremely fast adaptaptive organism” something like that. P.Sims) Nothing new here. But the definition of insanity is trying the same thing over and over expecting a different result. Something sure doesn’t seem to sane about this B.S.!
J. Sullivan
by pantherpackcaniac on Oct 11, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Who would you hand the keys to?
Not much you can do midseason
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Fox can keep the keys
but can we at least try something different?
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Honestly...no
If we wanted something different then we should have fired him in the offseason.
Too many fans are wanting things out of this team in 2009 that we’ve never had.
Jake’s never been consistent
Fox has never taken risks
Peppers has never had fire
Changes will have to be made, but realistically the philosophy is not going to change in 2009… it’s too late for that
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If we cant end up 3-3 in Arizona, then I'm all for it.
But, I dont think Matt Moore magically transforms the offense… the problems are deeper than that
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They mixed the play calling up a little better
in preseason! I know they were just experiments on 2nd stringers. But no K. Moore? No new plays?
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by pantherpackcaniac on Oct 11, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm seeing nothing but the same garbage plays from the Panthers
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Would 10 yads back take them out of FG range?
Of course they get another shot at 3rd down
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If DeAngelo hadn't fumbled it would be 3-2.. lets keep it in perspective
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True...but the offense is horrid
not executing…not fooling anybody
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The offense is terrible
nothing else to say. Can’t run the ball, can’t throw past 6 yds
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Halftime 2-10 Redskins
Davidson needs to be canned
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Davidson was a bad hire
why would you raid the Browns for an OC?
(Same thing re taking a DC the Colts let go)
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Davidson is doing all the things we fired Henning for… thats what is driving me nuts
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No idea
but you could almost certainly have found someone that was a step below OC somewhere else. You know, on a team that had a semi-good offense (at worst)
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Henning may have even been better?
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by pantherpackcaniac on Oct 11, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont really mind losing record..
as long as something is going to happen in the offseason..but as of right now we dont even have a first round pick..
Has Foxy lost his Moxy?
Has anyone read the Truth and Rumors post on si.com where is says that Fox thinks he will be fired? I doubt we would hire Bill Cowher though.
LETS GO PANTHERSS!!!
lets rock emm in the second half
I've been seeing the problem..
but just trying to stay positive…with the playmakers we have on the offense we should be the leading offense in the NFL…
TD
Thomas Davis is playing lights out this year
Nice hit
Especially for such a mis-match in size
A little help...
Can someone tell me if Desean Jackson is playing in the TB-Philly Game?
Well everyone wanted the Panthers to run the ball
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I heard the commentary too
but that was unnaceptable by Muhammad…. 90% of recievers would have that
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You can't blame Jake for that one
Moose has stone hands
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How many recievers in the NFL would have gotten that ball?
I would safely 90% it went right through his hands
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Not because of the INT
I wasn’t ready for Moore at that point because of the INT, but just because after all I had seen from the Panthers at that point on Sunday, I wanted to see some change. I was feeling the game slip away at that point and was hoping to at least see what the kid had. BUt in the end we won so I’m glad they kept Jake in the game.
What I like
I like Everette Brown. Unfortunately, I think I am going to like our would have been first round pick better.
Brown is looking really solid
If he ends up being a 10 sack guy does it really matter who we could have had? Likely we would have had to take a DE 1st round in 2010 any way.
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So the offense has given 14 points
and the defense has scored 2. Freakin Panthers are just pathetic…Okay, I’m going to be on the Fire Fox bandwagon if something doesn’t change soon. This is just pathetic to watch
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If you take a team with this much talent and it performs at this level
it’s a coaching problem.
+1
If he’s coaching like he’s going to be fired, then you need to get rid of him.
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Fox
If Fox is already thinking he will be fired, how can his heart still be in it?
Question
what makes you think his heart is still in it?
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Job Security
Win or lose, he will be coaching some team next year.
Brutal offense man
Time to break out the miracle rituals.
Cmon offense someone step up and show some pride.
Yes he seems to run up the middle better, hits the hole quicker
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Unrelated to the game
what about maybe going after Josh Johnson (TB)? They’re going to make him a back-up behind Freeman, maybe we can go get him?
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Thanks for finally throwing the ball down the field
And it was Moore’s return that jump started it
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The Fat Lady is Mum
The fat lady hasn’s sung yet folks.
Best way to watch this game...
look for the young playmakers for next year. That way it doesn’t make a fan as angry.
The fat lady has sung...
on the season. Even if we do beat the skins…Panthers have issues on too many levels!
It does make you wonder how we can compete with the better teams
when we can’t roll a team like the ’skins
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But we need a TE that can go down the middle of the field
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Just saw a guy at the stadium with a Panther Carr jersey
Classic
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by southtunnel on Oct 11, 2009 3:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Cambell only has 96 yards passing... he averages over 250
Chris Harris making a difference?
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Just saw a guy at the stadium with a Panther Carr jersey
Classic
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by southtunnel on Oct 11, 2009 3:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
FRED DAVIS FAIL
hahahahahaha he’s flipping more than a gymnast
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Jason Campbell
Anyone think Jason Campbell will be a FA after this year? Could be an option…
credit to my wife
she said “at least we get it at the same place as the fumble. just a few seconds later”
If we are going to win this game its up to the D and Delhomme
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Here we go Jake
use play action to complete some passes that will open up the inside run to J-Stew
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Hey guys! I'm here!
Got off work early for the game.
Go stewie!
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Stop throwing it at Hoover please
someone else has to be open
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The story of this game is our O-line.
People just keep giving up their blocks. Time for a sigh >.<
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rethink our analysis
so i’m one of the guys who’s been saying bench jake and that d-will is the best rb in the league. if jake leads us to a 4th qtr comeback, and d-will finished on the bench, i have to eat a couple words here and there. but i just hope we get the win.
Are you able to push guys
into the punt returner?
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Way to use your head Hoover!
That’s my first bad pun of the season… enjoy it.
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That almost seems like cheating.
Not that I’m calling. Lol
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There we go! Touchdown Stewart!
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I hear you
But if anyone starts a trade D-Will thread after stewarts injury history they might be nuts
I need to give a shoutout to Rhys Lloyd
He is booming it today!
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No matter how ugly
I think all the team cares about is a W. I say a win gives a much-needed confidence boost.
He has to
With Harris blitzing he needs to drop further back and help prevent the big play
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Time to run that clock.
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Give J-STEW THE FREAKING BALL
DeAngelo is amazing… but not today
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LIES!
He got the first down! Don’t come into here with that nonsense!
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Good play, no doubt. I wrote that before the snap.
Williams has been wholely ineffective all game.
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Yeah, I know.
I agree with you there. I was just messing with you. I would put a lot of blame on the O-Line though, they’re just being dominated time and time again. Too much penetration, and the RB has to gain a couple of yards before they even get back to the LOS
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I agree
Williams relies on the tackles playing well, which they havent
Stewart relies on the guards, who have been playing well
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Score is 20-3 if DeAngelo didn't fumble and Moose catches the ball
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Game over guys. Game over.
Great run by Jake Delhomme! That’s a playcall I like to see!
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Special Teams bailed us out
The Moore return and then Teal knocks the skins player into the punt returner
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Way to keep it...
in perspective. Last years team would have smoked this mediocre team! We are just not that good this year.
If not for Denver's fluke
Cincy is unbeaten and Denver might be winless (I credit the fluke leading them to play above their heads)
by chillicothe20 on Oct 11, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
And... Cleveland won... 6-3
Looks like Buffalo might be easier than I thought
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We did it!
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by Figgi4life on Oct 11, 2009 4:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
oh my god...
CHIEFS are bout to upset the COWGIRLS…
What the F***
They won’t let us see the end of the game? NFL ruling my arse.
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Nice comeback win...
they overcame some mistakes and found a way to make it happen.
Lets get the momentum train rolling and make it two straight next week!
GO PANTHERS!
Stewart played better
Williams is dancing too much
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The O-Line is the most important part of this upcoming week.
We have to get better at blocking. We’ve got to start pushing the D-Line back, not the other way around.
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Well we are a 1-3 team
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by southtunnel on Oct 11, 2009 4:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What ds you guys think about Jake?
I know he didn’t play great, but with the way our running game looked, he was very much responsible for this win
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by southtunnel on Oct 11, 2009 4:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Jake
I am still a fan of Jake. Sure he is aging and makes some silly turnovers, but he can’t be to blame for a 1-3 record. He needs more time in the pocket and the running game MUST step it up. Say what you want about him, but the guy knows how to win.
No silly turnovers by Jake today.
With the number of times Gross allowed his man to blindside Jake (NOT acceptable by a ProBowlerOT), it’s a wonder Jake didn’t fumble more — he did once but recovered it himself.
And I don’t think the INT counts as a silly turnover, either — it was ever so slightly behind Moose, but he should have caught it anyway, and definitely! not let it be picked off.
Jake played well today — hope the haters bet off his back for a change.
Big D
Jake played with alot of heart today, but I don’t think anyone has ever questioned that about the man. However, 181 yards, td, and an int against a mediocre team will not get him out of the doghouse just yet.
Still qualifies as leading yet another 4Q comeback.
He’s not Peyton Manning. But I was just hoping we’ll see a week without any posts calling for him to be replaced.
Let’s bask in the warm glow of a well-needed victory.
Tampa Bay and Buffalo are pitiful and should present no obstacles to our getting back to .500. After that, we start to sweat again.
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