Who will land Peppers?
And so there I was on vacation. I was in relative isolation in the hills of North Georgia. I was happy, able to get away from the cares of the world and just enjoy myself. For the first time in three months, I didn't care about football. Other than a few hours watching the Cardinals beat down the Eagles in a dominating fashion before turning off the TV, I haven't paid attention to anything going on in Charlotte.
I determined that I couldn't be missing much. I might pop back to the news that this player or that player had been resigned, but I didn't expect anything else. But to come back to Julius Peppers of all people stirring up a controversy? I mean, is this not Julius Peppers, the man that was known as one of the quietest people on the team? Lead with his actions rather than his words? Is this not the man that Jerry Richardson himself asked to step up and lead the team when Mike Minter and Mike Rucker both retired?
Obviously we've found out that he has a darker side. After his 2.5 sacks last year and his comments earlier this week, he's seeming less the consistent producer every year, and more the man in a black cloak speaking through his henchman Carl Carey behind the curtains plotting dark deeds. After all, last year's production suddenly makes sense if Peppers didn't want to play in Carolina. After his latest comments, Peppers is quickly earning himself a black reputation in Carolina that he will leave here when he goes to his new team. People will not like him, and that's what he deserves after spending 7 years with the Panthers (4 Pro-Bowls) and then saying that the coaching staff "Aren't allowing him to live up to his potential."
Give me a break.
My stance on Julius Peppers haven't wavered since the off-season, and this only supports it further. We have to franchise him. If we're going to lose such a great player, it would be madness to not try to get some compensation for him.
Peppers is a freakish athlete, one that can play the game into his middle 30's if he wishes. He won't play well for us during the season if he stays here, but he's simply too good to allow him to hit free agency. If I were the Panthers, I would try to get Jordan Gross to sign to a multiyear contract as soon as possible and then sign Peppers to a franchise tag to use him as trade bait. Jared Allen was traded from the Chiefs to the Vikings for a 1st round pick and two 3rds just last year. Julius Peppers is a bit older than him so his value goes down, but he would command at least a 1st and 3rd rounder if he was traded right now.
We're going to have to wait a while though. The trading and free agency period opens Feb. 27th. Mark that on your calendars. In the meantime, we get a little over a month to watch the mud start slinging between the Panthers and Peppers. Sounds like enough to keep us busy right?
The big question is, who would want Peppers?
Houston Texans
It is my own personal conspiracy theory that Carey might be influencing Peppers to sign away from the Panthers, and what better place to do it than with Houston? Honestly, this may be the best thing to happen. The Texans have the #15 pick in the NFL Draft, and the guy across the line from Mario Williams has zero sacks for the season. You heard me! Zero Sacks. I bet anything that the Texans would love to have a player like Julius Peppers to pair with Mario Williams, and the Panthers should waste no time in getting this deal done. The only knock against this deal is that the Texans have a 4-3 defense, not the preference of Peppers.
Atlanta Falcons
Once again, not a 3-4 defense. But the Falcons are a playoff team with a lot of salary cap space. Signing Peppers beside Abraham would be a instant upgrade to this defense. They have the draft picks to do it, but they could definitely pay Peppers his fat contract if they wanted him.
The 49ers
They're a possibility. A 3-4 team that is a big player or two away from the playoffs. Sound familiar? However, they're a long shot at best. They have more pressing needs at this point.
Miami Dolphins
Same reasons as above, except with Peppers they'd have a shot at the Super Bowl with Peppers and a couple other key additions. Tony Sparano is an aggressive coach, and I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to nab the replacement for Jason Taylor.
Baltimore Ravens
Once again a 3-4 defense, once again a team that has more pressing needs at this point. They're also a good choice if Peppers really wants to play linebacker, as Ray Lewis is getting close to retirement and will need a replacement. However, I don't see why they would make a huge splash in a trade for Peppers, but it's nevertheless a fit if he somehow makes it to FA.
Buffalo Bills
This team just needs any sort of pass rush, and the team finished just below a Top 10 defense without one. The Bills are desperate for a rush, and desperate times call for desperate measures. The Bills have the #11 pick in the draft and there are plenty of good DE's to take Peppers spot at that position. The Bills could make a push for Peppers if they wanted him. They'd have to talk him into a 4-3 defense again, but Peppers would be an immediate contributor to a struggling D-Line.
Bengals, Broncos, Raiders, the same reason as above.
In the end, we don't have any choice but to give Peppers up. Our goal the next month should be to set ourselves up into a position where we can get something out of it. A first round pick is a must.
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Atlanta
I would like to go ahead and take them away from contention from getting Peppers. I can’t imagine the Panthers would be so desperate to get rid of him they would trade him to a team they play twice a year. Peppers could definitely end up there if the Panthers got desperate but I would like for that to be a last resort type thing.
If they'd offer a 1st/3rd round pick
I’d take that offer any time. Besides, Julius would only play the 1st quarter or so anyway.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
NFC South?
IMO, this would be the absolute last option, even after making him stay for one more year. And the only way I would do it would be the two 1st rounders that are entitled from a franchised player.
There is no way
the Panthers would even consider an offer from an NFC south team, and likely won’t consider anyone else in the NFC. It’s the AFC or bust for Peppers, methinks.
The problem is...
As you hinted at, that no 3-4 defenses really need an OLB pass rusher that badly this offseason. Think about the teams that use it, and then take into account who they currently have.
Ravens
Steelers
Chargers
Dolphins
Cowboys
Patriots
Broncos (don’t know if they’ll keep it)
Although… one team I hear is switching to the 3-4 this year is the Packers (9th pick overall), under new DC (and our old pal) Dom Capers. Also, Mangini is going to run a 3-4 in Cleveland (5th overall) now. Also, Rex Ryan with the Jets (17th) could mean a change.
Finally, it will never happen, and I am going to get called out on this one bigtime, but I’d seriously consider Peppers for Cassel and picks. The Patriots won’t do it, because A) they don’t need him, B) Brady’s status is still uncertain, and C) he’s not their kind of player, they want upside (Welker) or guys that are in the bargain bin (Moss), not guys about to set records for the position’s salary.
by the bomb dot com on Jan 21, 2009 1:57 AM EST reply actions
1st and 3rd
would get the job done in my book, just not to Atlanta. Of course I would want more than that but I think asking for any more may be pushing it. I am not sure Cassel for Peppers and picks is a bad idea, I personally would not want to do it because I am not sold on Cassel being any good outside of the Patriots organization. The only problem is I doubt the Patriots would want Peppers and if they are giving up a young QB they will not be giving us draft picks as well. I would rather have picks than Peppers.
I am not sure I want the 9th pick in the draft either though because you have to pay those guys in the top 10 so much money and they are unproven. I guess it beats the alternative of getting nothing for Peppers. My dream scenario is to get a 1st and 2nd for Peppers but I think that is aiming too high.
by bengoodfella on Jan 21, 2009 8:08 AM EST up reply actions
3-4 teams
Dallas
SF
’Zona (they play both, and their 3-4 is more like a 5-2)
GB (new this year)
Baltimore
Cleveland
SD
Pitt
NE
Miami
NYJ
Denver (new this year)
The Browns #5 or the Packers #9 looks real good
plus a 2nd or 3rd. I think the 3-4 thing is just a smokescreen. He just wants a change.
I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com
I agree with your last part....."wants a change"
And I certainly hope this is the last Panther that wants a change of scenery (Pep this year, Jenkins last year).
I also think that Cleveland could be a very interesting candidate. They already attempted to beef up their weak defense last year by trading for Shaun Rogers, so perhaps they would be interested in Peppers this offseason as well. I just don’t know if they’ll meet the Panther’s expected asking price.
by ChipperTeixeira89 on Jan 21, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
Are you sure of this?
I was thinking the Panthers have a window after franchising him to trade him. Usually the player will start working a deal with the new team as soon as the two teams reach a deal. It’s usually contingent on the player and new team being able to work something. I’m no expert on this so if somebody knows different please let me know.
I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com
I never heard of anything like that.
Even if it was true, you could get around it. All you would have to do is deny that it was your only intention. The Chief’s did it with Jared Allen, and no one fussed about that. They called it the most aggressive trade of the off-season.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
Being a diehard Bronco fan, I was excited to hear he wants to play in 3-4 and would love to see him in Denver,
I agree with your argument, you have to franchise him. He is too good to just let walk.
Here is a question for you guys…Where is he better? LDE or RDE? Personally I like him over on the Strong side, he is a great bookend against the run and adds a pass rushing presence… but you would know better than I.
2007’s 2.5 sacks seems like an anomaly to me due to the fact that he has averaged 11.3 sacks in the other 6 seasons.
"I am not trying to start anything I am just saying that i think if you take Knowshon and draft D later you guys will be hella good next year" ...IamtheGreatest - The smartest Chiefs fan I ever had the priviledge of reading!
2.5 sacks
We all figured he had some physical problem in 2007, but know that he wanted to leave we have pretty much credited to his lack of desire that year.
This was his first year as RE out of his overall seven season with us, and he had a career high 14.5 sacks.
I think there was something to the meds he was on...supposedly
He can basically play any position on the DL. The problem is he may prefer an OLB position, not sure if that is real or smoke, but he hinted at wanting to play the OLB in a 3-4
I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com
really...he wants to play standing up? Interesting
"I am not trying to start anything I am just saying that i think if you take Knowshon and draft D later you guys will be hella good next year" ...IamtheGreatest - The smartest Chiefs fan I ever had the priviledge of reading!

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