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Panthers Free Agent Decisions Are Looming

Free agent talk is heating up and the Panthers are in the thick of it. As I'm sure you know (and may be sick of hearing about) they have two high profile free agents that other teams would like a crack at, DE Julius Peppers and OT Jordan Gross. Here's an interesting take on that:

Jordan Gross, OT, Carolina Panthers
There has been some thought that Carolina can't afford to keep both Gross and Peppers, especially considering they're arguably the best free agent talent at "premium" positions. The reality is that Carolina likely can't keep Gross, Peppers and quarterback Jake Delhomme, who will have a reported $11 million cap number next season. Smart money says the Panthers franchise Peppers and get a deal with Gross done before free agency begins, then either cut Delhomme or dramatically rework his deal.

The Panthers will have its greatest leverage with Delhomme, who after coming off that stinker of a game may be willing to take a restructured deal that keeps the other key players on the roster. I can just imagine how this board would light up if the team went forward with paying Delhomme $11M next season. QB Matt Moore would cost a mere fraction of that.

 

 

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The only other notable Panther free agent is TE Jeff King. King's role in the passing game was dramatically reduced as he only notches 21 receptions in 2008 after putting up 46 last season. His main role was blocking and for the most part he seemed to do a good job of it. Since the Panthers don't have any other blocking TE's I don't see King going anywhere.

If you're interested in seeing what other free agents may be available around the NFL here's a good site

Some other intriguing names that would look good in Carolina blue:

Albert Haynesworth, DT, Tennessee Titans
The big daddy of this offseason's free agent market, Haynesworth will land somewhere near the richest deal in NFL history for a defensive player. The Titans used their franchise tag on him last season, and he added the same "no second-tag" stipulation as Suggs, so he's going to be on the market. His age (he turns 28 in June) and ability to dominate make him one of the best defensive free agents in league history. His prior anger issues - and the penchant for some defensive tackles to get lazy after signing big deals - make him a little scary for teams. But he'll still cash in huge and leave Tennessee.

I can't see him coming to Carolina but damn it would be sweet. How about that other pesky DE position? I'm not sure DE Charles Johnson is the answer but I'm positive Tyler Brayton is not.

Bertrand Berry, UFA, Arizona Cardinals
Berry finished the regular season with five sacks and a pair of forced fumbles for the Cardinals in fourteen games of action. He may not be the most coveted potential free agent at his position, but he's definitely effective when he's healthy and playing his best. He'll be looked at as a role player on the market and there's a decent chance that the Cardinals will move on.

Other Defensive Linemen
Jonathan Babineaux, UFA, Atlanta Falcons
Rocky Bernard, Seattle Seahawks
Kevin Carter, UFA, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Chris Canty, UFA, Dallas Cowboys
Shaun Cody, UFA, Detroit Lions
Jovan Haye, UFA, Tampa Bay Bucs
Tank Johnson, UFA, Dallas Cowboys
John Thornton, UFA, Cincinnati Bengals
Marcus Tubbs, UFA, Seattle Seahawks

Any thoughts on these guys?

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WOW! $11,000,000

Something going to have to give here. If Jake doesn’t restructure he better be gone. We can find someone with his abilities for much less.

by LittleKing on Jan 14, 2009 11:22 AM EST reply actions  

Derek Anderson...

I hear may be available for cheap. Unfortunately i don’t know enough about his abilities or his contract situation. Didn’t he have a good year in 2007? Could be an option.

by Davejinxer on Jan 14, 2009 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Good question

He had crossed my mind earlier this week as an intriguing option. But other than his one good year that’s pretty much all I know.

by LittleKing on Jan 15, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's another post..

saying Jakes cap hit is $6M next year
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/palmbeach/miamidolphins/entries/2009/01/14/could_panthers_freeagents_pepp.html

Geez, who to believe, who to believe?

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by Jaxon on Jan 14, 2009 12:33 PM EST reply actions  

I think

Jake’s salary is $11 million next year but his cap hit is $6 million dollars. I am trying to find the link where I found that but I can’t find it. Maybe I imagined it. Either way, I don’t really care for Haynesworth or Berry. I guess if we got Berry cheap I could go for that, but I also don’t think anyone on the roster is the current answer to the DE position. Maybe Charles Johnson, but that is not a chance I would want to take using him for an entire year, with/without Peppers. I am interested to see what the team will do.

by bengoodfella on Jan 14, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

As you mentioned, Haynesworth won't come here.

I see us going DT in the 2nd or 3rd round of the draft (please).

As for DE, if Peppers is back, I try to find a DE in the draft (Paul Kruger, if you want a homer pick). I think Johnson can be the guy, and if Brayton is around, he’ll be a back-up at both DE & DT.

by UtesFan89 on Jan 14, 2009 1:04 PM EST reply actions  

Unless Fox deploys his BPA philosophy

Best Player Available – We know how Fox likes to draft those projected 1st rounders that drop to the 2nd and 3rd. (Kalil, Jarrett, Conner) Sometimes you get value (Kalil, maybe Conner) and other times you find they dropped for a reason (Jarrett)

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by Jaxon on Jan 14, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

If the Panthers lose both Peppers and Gross (I hope that is unlikely, but you never know)

I think Hurney, Fox and the rest of the front office should looking into signing that Oakland corner IF the Raiders do not franchise him (again unlikely, but they are the Raiders for a reason).

So what do you guys think?

by ChipperTeixeira89 on Jan 14, 2009 2:34 PM EST reply actions  

Another corner

would be a great idea if, and only if, the new defensive coordinator/Trgo actually decide to let the corners play their position and not an 8 yard cushion zone defense. We are completely wasting the talents of Gamble and I would not want to waste Ashaoamaoaoaoaaguggu’s (its spelled difficulty) talents either. Zone defense is great and all but when you have corners that are capable of man you need to at least let them play closer to the receiver or play man. Great idea…though I would want a DT as well added to the team because getting pressure on the QB would be really, really helpful.

by bengoodfella on Jan 14, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Why did never play man up?

Soft zones for the most part all season

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by Jaxon on Jan 14, 2009 3:35 PM EST reply actions  

I don't hate soft zones

I just think with Gamble having the potential to be a shut down corner, taking away his athleticism is not the wisest choice. Even though Arizona was not going full speed ahead in the second half, when Gamble played closer on Fitzgerald, he has less success. The formula for beating the Cardinals was to not allow the receivers to get a free release and get pressure on Warner, yet our defensive gameplan did not include doing either of those things. I think we should put our players in a position to succeed and those 8 yard soft zones are not always the answer to that.

I have faith in John Fox but every once in a while, I wonder if he has lost his mind and wonder what he is doing. We have to remember the only reason Beason started last year was because Dan Morgan got injured, otherwise he would be a backup or a weakside linebacker. He was Morgan’s backup last year at the beginning of the year. I am not 100% in love with his ability to judge talent and put that talent to its best available use. He played Kalil as a Guard last year, partly out of necessity, but he doesn’t always put his players in the best position to succeed. I go on on and on, like trying to make Thomas Davis a safety his rookie year and letting DeShaun Foster start almost the entire 2007 year. I begin to wonder sometimes if he pays attention at practice. This year a big deal was made when Thomas Davis was put in position to make more plays, as if the coaching staff was really excited they had finally figured it out when this should have been done a year before that. I realize I am being critical but Fox makes me nervous when he sticks with veterans until the bitter end and the same thing goes with game plans. He used the exact same game plan in the first game against the Cardinals as he did in the playoff game. I almost wonder whether it will matter who we draft and who our defensive/offensive coordinator because I am not sure he puts his players in position to succeed.

I have ranted enough, I am not going to even get into the complete lack of ability for the offense to show some originality in getting Steve Smith the ball.

by bengoodfella on Jan 14, 2009 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Delhomme could play for free and everyone would still hate him. So are we saying to give Moore the nod over finding a more experienced QB?

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by southtunnel on Jan 14, 2009 9:16 PM EST reply actions  

Moore

I don’t think we should call Moore the starter. He should still have to earn it. If he is playing better than Jake in camp, I woul d give him a couple starts in the preseason. If he is going to be our starter, I think it would be better to put him in now fo rthe long term, but we really still have a shot to win it all with our current roster. I don’t want to waste the opportunity on developing someone’s experience level. I bet everyone has learned from the AZ game, so it’s highly unlikely another QB will play that poorly the entire game. I remember a couple years ago when Jake was hurt and Weinke started, and we ran the ball 52 times to beat the Falcons. Jake won’t throw it so often again when he looks so bad. So unless another QB comes in and is clearly better than Jake, Jake will be our starter next year. Not only that, but he is very competitive. He is going to be thinking about this until next year’s playoffs. I bet he is more determined than ever to come back and win one. I would like to find a better QB, but if we have to go with Jake, I think we still win another division title next year.

by usana_gaines on Jan 15, 2009 12:55 AM EST reply actions  

Myabe he will run a lot over the off-season

and learn how to move around in the pocket

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by Jaxon on Jan 15, 2009 8:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I would think...

that going to the superbowl and losing would provide him enough motivation and determination for him to play his heart out and want to win. That’s not the problem with Jake because he has that competitive spirit, maybe it’s his physical abilities and body mechanics that’s preventing him from being consistent and reliable. Depending too much on his primary receivers and the vanilla play calling also have to be factored in. According to his teammates, he is was in the best shape he’s been in years. Does his elbow need more time to heal? Do we want to put anymore faith in Jake? Sometimes change is good for everyone. Next year is a tougher schedule with the likes of Brees and Ryan leading two of our division rivals. We need someone competent that will minimize mistakes at the QB position. The opportunity we had this year doesn’t come around often, and windows can close pretty quickly.

by Davejinxer on Jan 15, 2009 8:53 AM EST reply actions  

let jake stay

let that bastard stay and bring in someone who can light a flam up his ass. i lost 1000 fucking dollars and being mocked at work cause of that fag. trade for matt cassell when brady gets better

by valtheguy on Jan 16, 2009 6:14 PM EST reply actions  

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