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Panthers vs. Vikings Game Day Open Thread

Carolina Panthers at Minnesota Vikings, Sep 21, 2008 1:00 PM EDT


Welcome to the Panthers vs. Vikings game day open thread. Here are some things I've been thinking about:

  • With five false start penalties last week it won't get any easier inside the Metrodome; its one of the loudest venues in all of sports. I expect the Vikings to take advantage of that as always.
  • Even if RB Adrian Peterson doesn't play his back-up Chester Taylor is no slouch. The Vikings have a good offensive line that will open holes regardless of who gets the rock.
  • I bet the Panthers try to go deep to WR Steve Smith on their very first offensive play. That would make sure the secondary gets worried about him from the start.
  • I think its about time for RB Jonathan Stewart to break off a nice kick off return . It's only a matter of time
  • Back-up LG Geoff Hangartner seems to be filling in well for the injured Travelle Wharton. Wharton should be back some but I see no reason for him to rush it
  • CB Chris Gamble has come close to several interceptions this season but still has yet to get his first. New Vikings starter at QB Gus Frerotte offers an opportunity to turn that around
  • The Vikings are good against the run. I bet Jake wins this one through the air.  

Go Panthers.

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Adrian Peterson Injury Update:

No surprise to me but AP is going to play:

NFL.com senior writer Steve Wyche reports that Vikings Pro Bowl RB Adrian Peterson (hamstring) will play today against the Panthers.

While Peterson is active, the Vikings deactivated WR Sidney Rice for the game. Rice sprained his right posterior cruciate ligament last Sunday against the Colts. Here is the full list of the Vikings-Panthers inactives.

I knew he would play. The run defense better bring their A Game.

 

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Blogging from Snapper Jack's

Anyone else out there? Predictions?

Here’s mine: Panthers 31 Vikings 17

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 12:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Vikings WR Sidney Rice is Out

Darn, I was looking forward to seeing the local kid gone big time. Rice was a star for the Gamecocks. I was surprised to see him leave early but he going to be good.

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 12:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Typical

Watching NFL network this week and hearing the commentators talk about this game, you would think Carolina doesn’t have an offense. Everyone is talking about AP and if we can stop him and I agree he is a big factor. Even if he doesn’t play a lot Taylor is not slouch. But for crying out loud, the Panthers had weapons on offense and I think we will win because of our offense and not because of our D (does that make since).

Prediction: Carolina 24, Vikings 10

by LittleKing on Sep 21, 2008 12:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Panthers offense is going to score

Its just a matter as to whether the Vikings can keep up

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 12:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice return by J-Stew

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 1:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Though they didn't go deep, they did go to Smith

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 1:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pass was too far behind the 1st down marker

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 1:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

3-0 - Decent start

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 1:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

defense holds

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoa - Gamble lit him up

Nice pass break up

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 1:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thats not good

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 I think...I agree with your point

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

GC says one...

Dwill had a pass from Delhomme for 5 yards

by mariners124m on Sep 21, 2008 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What a gift to gamble

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 1:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think I called that in my intro - Gamble INT

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now its time to run

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like that last run play...faking to Smith

on the end around…will set them up for one later

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think J-Stew

missed the hole on that 3rd & 1

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stewart stuffed

Ouch.
That’s probably going to happen a few more times today.

by MrEd12345 on Sep 21, 2008 1:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Let's hope...

AP has plenty of rushes like that this afternoon.

by MrEd12345 on Sep 21, 2008 1:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pep almost got him

and then Lucas almost had the INT

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 1:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice scramble to get the ball to King

sweet

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Smith is so fiesty

I love it

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would somebody please block EJ Henderson?

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WTF, Jake just dropped the ball?

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 1:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

fumble

sigh…another slow start

by SCrebel90 on Sep 21, 2008 1:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

peppers

almost had a sack

by SCrebel90 on Sep 21, 2008 1:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jake just lost the ball

going back from center

Sack – Godfrey on the blitz

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The more the Vikings throw the ball

the better for the Panthers. Keep it away from AP

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 1:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Godfrey

gets his first sack

by SCrebel90 on Sep 21, 2008 1:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The kid can run

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's going on?

Is anyone else using gamecenter? It’s apparently way way way behind the actual game.

by MrEd12345 on Sep 21, 2008 1:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

can I post a link?

where people can watch online, Jaxon?

by SCrebel90 on Sep 21, 2008 1:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

sure

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Davis might get half that sack

Gamecenter does run a little late.

Davis got there just after Godfrey, they collided, Davis was shaken up

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 1:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

try this

stoogetv.com and click on channels…its either channel 2 or 3

by SCrebel90 on Sep 21, 2008 1:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

your welcome

thats how I watch most of my games living here in AZ…..I have the cardinals to watch every sunday….yuck

by SCrebel90 on Sep 21, 2008 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice catch by Smitty

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 1:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

j allen is a piece of sh**

he just horse collared Williams and no foul

by SCrebel90 on Sep 21, 2008 1:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He got away with one

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

First down by Rosario!

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 1:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TD J-Stew!

A gap, left side

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that pass to Rasario

needs to give all credit to O-line…they are looking sweet today!

by SCrebel90 on Sep 21, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

stewart

another td for him

by SCrebel90 on Sep 21, 2008 1:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe now

We won’t have to make a 4th quarter run

by mariners124m on Sep 21, 2008 2:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

smitty

smith made the big reception to setup Stewarts td. It’s awesome to have him back.

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by southtunnel on Sep 21, 2008 2:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

T-Davis playing well

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 2:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We're not getting enough of a pass rush

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Possible momentum change to Vikes?

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by southtunnel on Sep 21, 2008 2:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Diggs!

Offside damnit

by SCrebel90 on Sep 21, 2008 2:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If the Patriots

get whooped by the Dolphins I’m going to laugh and laugh and lauuuugh

by MrEd12345 on Sep 21, 2008 2:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Also, I can't wait to see our game vs. KC

If the Falcons are up 23-0 in the first half, I can’t wait to see what Jake, Smitty, and J-Stew do to those guys.

by MrEd12345 on Sep 21, 2008 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bucs are smacking the Bears!

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 2:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Johnson tipped the pass

Way to hold them to a FG

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 2:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2:00

minute drill lol

by SCrebel90 on Sep 21, 2008 2:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WTF, Jake got drilled

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh man

Now that’s not good

by MrEd12345 on Sep 21, 2008 2:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

damnit!!!

delhomme sacked and fumlbed for TD!!! ah!!!@

by SCrebel90 on Sep 21, 2008 2:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Running out the clock?

Fox doesn’t trust they won’t make another mistake

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 2:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think he just wants to go back in

get their composure and let the place quiet down. Mostly the latter, I think.

by MrEd12345 on Sep 21, 2008 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately yes

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Talk about pissing away a lead

geez…need to regroup

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't be pessimistic

The Vikes are getting their points from Carolina’s mistakes, Carolina’s getting their points from their successes. I’ll take the latter over the former any day.

by MrEd12345 on Sep 21, 2008 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fantasy question for you guys,

I have Ryan Grant, Darren Sproles, Jamal Lewis, and Pierre Thomas that I can still start by the late game. Who do you think I should start? it’s a PPR league

by LittleKing on Sep 21, 2008 2:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd start Sproles.

He was great last week, and he’ll only be better against the Jets.

by MrEd12345 on Sep 21, 2008 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Same opinion

Sproles should have a good day

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

cheers

Start Sproles….lets him smack around our boy Jenkins lol

by SCrebel90 on Sep 21, 2008 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jake

He almost had as many yards in the first half as he did all game against the Bears. Interested to see how he’s going to do in the second half… I feel like they’re going to air it out and take back the lead.

by MrEd12345 on Sep 21, 2008 2:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jake is misfiring on some passes

He need to get those throws on target

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And the 2nd half

is when he gets them on target, or has so far. I’m hoping for big things.

by MrEd12345 on Sep 21, 2008 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

also looking

for our running game!

by SCrebel90 on Sep 21, 2008 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Strahan

had a very good point in the halftime show: Fox is in the locker room saying “Don’t turn over the ball and we win this game.” He’s absolutely right, I think. No more turnovers, we win this thing.

by MrEd12345 on Sep 21, 2008 2:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nail on the head for sure

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thinking

about moving home (SC) just so I could watch my Panthers on a big screen for free lol

by SCrebel90 on Sep 21, 2008 2:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

where you at right now?

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tucson,

Arizona…I go the University of Arizona….I even miss watching my Gamecocks

by SCrebel90 on Sep 21, 2008 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I'm in Williamsburg, VA

at William and Mary. I’m so sick of the Redskins I could die. You’d think they’d carry some Panthers games here, being pretty close to NC, but no.

by MrEd12345 on Sep 21, 2008 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kemo

might have just killed AP lol

by SCrebel90 on Sep 21, 2008 2:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh man

Who was that who had the sack and couldn’t wrap up?

by MrEd12345 on Sep 21, 2008 2:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

crap

we missed all our sacks and just gave up 41yard pass

by SCrebel90 on Sep 21, 2008 2:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

my sentiment exactly

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like seeing those hands up

knocking down those passes. Darwin Walker, nice.

by MrEd12345 on Sep 21, 2008 2:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No pressure on the QB

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 2:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

SOB

we just gave up a TD!!! wtf!

by SCrebel90 on Sep 21, 2008 2:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

J-Stew!!!!!!

Big run back!!! Oh, its coming back

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 2:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

crap

lost my feed…what happened?!?!?

by SCrebel90 on Sep 21, 2008 2:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Holding on the runback by King

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lets hope

it come back…right when things are getting off too…sigh

by SCrebel90 on Sep 21, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I haven't seen the replay yet

I bet its total bs

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 2:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

to the 10 yard line

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 2:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

J-Stew ran it down to the 12 or 10, something like that

But Kings penalty came right at the initial cut

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok, I saw it

it was cheap, but I can see it

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Finally - Peppers gets a sack!

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 3:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

julius peters???

announcer called peppers julius peters… Moron

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by southtunnel on Sep 21, 2008 3:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think

Julius Peters was the guy out there last season. Now Julius Peppers is back in the lineup, and I like it.

by MrEd12345 on Sep 21, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fumble again!

Jake needs needs needs more protection

by MrEd12345 on Sep 21, 2008 3:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

O-line getting abused on the blitz

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 3:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

they are

working Ken Lucas

by SCrebel90 on Sep 21, 2008 3:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Who would have thought

Jake 11 attempts, Frerotte 22

by MrEd12345 on Sep 21, 2008 3:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Despite the score,

you have to be happy with Adrian Peterson’s numbers. 12 carries for 44 yards. I can dig that.

by MrEd12345 on Sep 21, 2008 3:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's just a shame

it’s come at the expense of over 200 yards for a 37 year old backup.

by MrEd12345 on Sep 21, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That penalty on Davis was total crap!!

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 3:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice recovery, now lets block the kick!

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 3:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OH MAN

Blocked! but they took a timeout right before the kick! GOOD GOD

by MrEd12345 on Sep 21, 2008 3:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WTF, without the timeout its a blocked kick

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 3:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

John Fox

currently wants to punch himself in the face.

by MrEd12345 on Sep 21, 2008 3:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

vikings better

put it in the bag….panthers are playing like crap

by SCrebel90 on Sep 21, 2008 3:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why punt it with only 6 minutes and down 2 scores?

F-it, I’d go for it.

That sack & TD chnaged the game for the Vikings

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 3:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think

it changed the game for the Panthers. They haven’t been able to do anything since.

by MrEd12345 on Sep 21, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so much

for our 3 -0 start…and freakin Oakland is goin to beat Buffalo…..what a crappy day

by SCrebel90 on Sep 21, 2008 3:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and atlanta's will probably win

which means we are tied at 2-1 with them. yuck.

by LittleKing on Sep 21, 2008 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

everyone leave?

or are you chewing away at your finger nails?

by SCrebel90 on Sep 21, 2008 3:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

See, they should have went for it on 4th

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 3:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If the Panthers can't stop the Vikings passing game

Just wait till they face a good passer.

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 3:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Little pass rush

And the o-line struggled

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Still have a little life

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 3:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the freaking false starts!!!!

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we need to score

and recover and onside kick…plus another field goal

by SCrebel90 on Sep 21, 2008 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you know sometimes I wish we would go hurry up in the middle of the game.

I think starting the 2nd half would have been a good time.

by LittleKing on Sep 21, 2008 3:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

excuse me

while I go kill myself

by SCrebel90 on Sep 21, 2008 3:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

thats it

im not watching anymore….I know we are better then the Vikings….this is crap

by SCrebel90 on Sep 21, 2008 3:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pathetic performance by the offense

in the 2nd half. Gross has been abused by Allen.

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 3:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

o-line just gave up

Enjoyed guys (except the losing part). I gotta go

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Littleking and Jaxon

I look forward to your analysis of this game…make sure to give our offense a D

by SCrebel90 on Sep 21, 2008 3:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I can;t see it being any higher

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by Jaxon on Sep 21, 2008 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

While I don't disagree

I think the bigger deal was that the offense couldn’t get anything going so our D got tired. the first 1/2 D look okay

by LittleKing on Sep 21, 2008 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so is this wrong of me?

At this point I hope AP scores a TD to end the game. he’s on my fantasy team. I feel dirty thinking that though.

by LittleKing on Sep 21, 2008 3:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

at least

you gave me laugh upon reading this….

by SCrebel90 on Sep 21, 2008 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

47 yards

rushing…..aren’t we suppose to be a running team this year??? we must lead the league in false starts between Otah and Gross

by SCrebel90 on Sep 21, 2008 3:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

did the just kneel

and give us the ball back?

by SCrebel90 on Sep 21, 2008 3:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Looking for something positive?

Atleast this is probably the toughest defense we will see this year.

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by southtunnel on Sep 21, 2008 4:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

True

I’m not thinking that this is somehow indicative of huge weaknesses on this team. The Vikings were considered playoff contenders for a reason. Their D is definitely the best we’re going to see. The Panthers definitely have played better, but I think this loss is more attributable to the Vikings than the Panthers. We just flat out got beat.

by MrEd12345 on Sep 21, 2008 4:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I dont agree with this at all

the vikings are not the better team….I will blame this on winner exhaustion…we just played 2 possible playoff teams and maintained on D for most of them game…..our offense looked like crap today. That timeout before the blocked field goal killed our morale…..Not to mention our O-line hasn’t clicked yet…

You just wait…..once the penalties stop, and Stewart becomes our featured back….watchout NFC because we want that championship and another chance at a Superbowl.

by SCrebel90 on Sep 21, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2005???

I agree. Our offense has yet to play a full game. Is Steve Smith still getting double covered? If not, then where did he go in the 2nd half? If so, then where was Hackett and Muhammad? And what happened to Rosario? This kind of reminded me of 2005, when the Bear’s defense dominated us… fortunately we were able to come back and torch them in the playoffs. But I will have major concerns until I see us play 4 quarters of offense. Now that we will be going up against some weaker defenses, we better start putting some points on the board.

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by southtunnel on Sep 21, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What a disappointment

The only thing that will make me feel a little better is a loss for the steelers and the cowboys. BTW we are tied with Atlanta and Tampa for the NFC south. Lets get ready for the dirty birds. Gotta win that one.

by Davejinxer on Sep 21, 2008 5:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

New Orleans is down by 2 scores in the 3rd quarter

At least it looks like we won’t be in a 4 way tie for the NFC South.

Still sucks. I thought if we won today, the next two games would be cake. And then we would be looking at 5-0. Now I am not even completely sure we can outscore Atlanta.

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