Panthers vs. Giants: Notes & Quotes and Missed FG's
It was right there for the taking, home field advantage in the cozy confines of Bank of America Stadium. The Panthers could see it, they reached for it, they had it and then ...it slipped away. We can only surmise how the Panthers felt afterward from their actions as not many were ready to talk about it:
In the miserable Panthers' locker room, it was like William's night had never happened. Stewart did not speak with reporters and by the time the locker room was open to the news media, nothing but a pair of wire hangers hung in William's empty locker. Williams made his way to the team bus just as quickly as he made his way to the end zone - just as quickly as the game slipped away from Carolina - without staying to speak with reporters.
"He had four touchdowns tonight," Delhomme said, "but I promise you he would have traded all four for a win."
We can barrage the run defense, lament the non-use of Steve Smith in the 2nd half or extol the senseless penalties. In the end if the wind had dropped for a few precious moments we would be having a very different slant on what happened in the Meadowlands Sunday night. Instead the Panthers must pick up the pieces and game plan for a very tough road game to the Super Dome this Sunday.
I'll post on that later but first here's some of my notes from the game after the jump...

- The run defense was good at the outset as Jon Beason made a nice hit on the FB to prevent a short 3rd down conversion.
- Musin Muhammad made a very nice catch for a first down. Moose had a good game both catching and blocking.
- On RB Derrick Wards first long run both SS Chris Harris and MLB Jon Beason attacked their gaps quickly, but both got sealed off as Ward hit a different gap
- Throughout the game when the Panthers rushed just 4 linemen there was little pressure put on QB Eli Manning, the sacks by DE's Tyler Brayton and Julius Peppers withstanding
- Peppers deflected a pass at the line that went right to LB Jon Beason who wasn't expecting it and dropped it. If there was a stat for it I'm sure the Panthers would be in the Top 3 for dropped INT's
- As I've mentioned before this was Brayton' best game as a Panther as he got pressure on a number of occasions, made some nice tackles in the run game and got a nice sack on Manning.
- I thought the ref's weren't calling crap until the end of the game. There could have been several pass interference calls on both sides throughout the game
- We seemed to be rotating in a lot of back-ups in the secondary as I saw Nate Salley and Dante Wesley on the field several times. I'm not sure the reason for that because has not been the Panthers MO in past games.
- SS Chris Harris had a big game as well and was bringing the wood on some of his hits
- The announcers pointed out that though Geoff Hangartner started at RG Jeremy Bridges was rotating in quite often. I'm not sure of why that was done other than maybe there was an unusually high number of substitutions due to the cold weather
- WR Dwayne Jarrett has his standard 1 catch for a 1st down. I'd like to see the Panthers use the big guy more in that situation.
- On RB DeAngelo Williams 4th TD run he completely abused Giants SS James Butler on an inside cut. It was exactly the type of move that separates Williams from other RB's including Jonathan Stewart, who would have simply tried to run over Butler.
- The check-down passes to Stewart were working well and maybe we will see more of them this Sunday. On the other hand, Jake prefers to go downfield to Smith rather than dump it off. I think the Panthers abandoned the deep pass because of the wind and thereby nullified their biggest weapon in the passing game. That won't be a problem in the Super Dome.
- On the Giants game tying drive a pass was deflected up and was going to come down right in the hands of CB Chris Gamble, that is until FS Charles Godfrey tipped it away. Another example of this key victory slipping away.
- The pass interference call on CB Ken Lucas was crap. Check the picture below which sure looks like good coverage to me. Sure, its a still photo, but its perfect coverage. Not that the play was a game changer but still...1st and goal at the 1 was tough for this call.
Looks like great coverage by CB ken Lucas to me!
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If memory serves correctly
I believe lucas was playing the ball the whole time. If someone that has it recorded can double check that would be great. He was in front of Hixon, and if I remember the rules correctly, the defender has the right to the ball as well. They might have still scored, but yeah 1st and goal on the 1 is not good odds.
by LittleKing on
Dec 23, 2008 12:29 PM EST
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His head is turned and his right arm is not wrapping the WR on the backside
Should have been a no call. It would have brought up 2nd and goal from the five, so sure they may have still scored but you never know.
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by Jaxon on
Dec 23, 2008 12:38 PM EST
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Lucas always plays too close
He is always all over receivers. The way he plays, he is going to get called eventually. I really think Marshall should replace him in the off season. Marshall has too much potential to be a backup.
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by southtunnel on
Dec 23, 2008 4:19 PM EST
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That could definitely be in the cards
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by Jaxon on
Dec 23, 2008 5:31 PM EST
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I agree.
We have three potential starters, and Lucas has a big fat contract. I’ll bet anything that he’s going to be cut. Marshall is getting too good to remain the 3rd wheel. Lucas seems to just get lost in coverage and allow too many deep balls.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
by Revshawn on
Dec 23, 2008 6:13 PM EST
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Look at Hixson's hand
Hixson’s hand was actually around Lucas’s waist pulling him. He created the PI. The beauty of it (if you are a Giants fan) was that his hand was away from the Ref. Unfortunately the holding call was correct. Unneccessary but correct.
by SouthernNorseman on
Dec 23, 2008 12:54 PM EST
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on the holding call
if Smith wouldn’t have held that defender that play could have ended really bad. Wasn’t that the play that delhomme fumbled the ball and to recover for the handoff? That could have been worse that 5 yards.
by LittleKing on
Dec 23, 2008 1:52 PM EST
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I wasn't following you at first...
but you switched plays. Yes, the holding call on Smith was the same play as the fumble I believe. That was a good call, Smitty was holding him big time or so it appeared.
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by Jaxon on
Dec 23, 2008 2:49 PM EST
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Defense is losing games for us
If the offense puts up 28 points, then a John Fox defense should never lose a game. The D-line can’t get pressure up the middle. And the secondary can tackle, but not cover.
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by southtunnel on
Dec 23, 2008 4:23 PM EST
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Not when we don't get turnovers
This D is going to give up some points
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by Jaxon on
Dec 23, 2008 5:31 PM EST
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I WAS upset about the loss
… but looking back it is probably best. We don’t want the Panthers going into the playoffs cocky. They are better as an underdog. Now we will can play the Giants again as an underdog and with a chip on our shoulder!
And if we take care of the Saints then we would only have to play one game to get back at the Giants.
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by southtunnel on
Dec 23, 2008 4:37 PM EST
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There was some small things that in fan's minds kept the Panthers from winning
However, Carolina still had the chance to win it at the end with a FG from Kasay. We can talk about the conditions and what not, but you can’t tell me that a kicker like Vinatieri would missed that. Now I’m not saying Kasay is that type of kicker, but after Sunday night’s showing (and the Super Bowl five years before mind you), Kasay proved to everyone that he is not a clutch kicker in pressure situations, unlike that kicker in Indianapolis.
by ChipperTeixeira89 on
Dec 23, 2008 4:41 PM EST
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Kasay shouldn’t be in that position. Had our defense stepped up we wouldn’t have to try to win on a 50 yard field goal
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by southtunnel on
Dec 23, 2008 5:19 PM EST
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If it was in a dome it sails through
and we talk about how lucky the Panthers were to win, how the offense put together a final drive when the game was on the line and how they got the job done. There are always ‘ifs’ sure for every losing team and it was only Kasay’s 2nd miss of the season of the season. With out looking it up I’m pretty confident Kasay has hit more big kicks than he has missed.
Still, I’m still a little pissed he missed it just the same.
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by Jaxon on
Dec 23, 2008 5:36 PM EST
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