The Good, Bad, and Ugly from Panthers loss
Pretty obvious, but I find I don't want to talk much about this game. I want to put it behind me as quickly as possible, as I'm sure the team does as well. That was sickening. I think the Panthers defensive bus got lost yesterday and they had to pull in scrubs. I knew that last week the Defense didn't play it's best game, but there is no way to foresee that fourth quarter meltdown yesterday. It's these types of games that make you question the team you have. If it wasn't for the previous 10 games I would. I don't envy Jaxon having to watch the game again to hand out grades, if he even needs too. Although I wouldn't mind watching just the 2nd and 3rd quarter and calling the game at 11 minutes left in the 4th.

The Bad
Slow Start - Once again the Panthers couldn't find their way out of the starting gate. The gun was fired but gate didn't open. Atlanta drove 70 yards on it first possession to go up 3-0, by the end of the first quarter the Panthers were down 10-0. Also at the end of the 1st quarter we had a total of 0 net yards. Can you call that a total?
Special Teams - Sure, if that's what you want to call it. On six kick-offs only two were for touchbacks. On six punts it was a net average of 27.0 yards. They also allowed the game ending and lifeblood sucking punt return TD. Before that, yes Turner had just scored a TD on their last drive, but being down 10 is much better than 17. It pretty much put us right back to where we started.
3 Sacks allowed - Delhomme found himself on the ground 3 times, tied for 2nd most this season (5 Minnesota, 3 Chicago)
Ugly Defensive meltdown - This one deserves bullet points of it's own. (From Panthers.com)
- 45 points allowed, 38 offensive points - Most points allowed by the Panthers, ever
- 6 TD allowed - 2nd most allowed in one gave, ever
- 5 rushing touchdowns - most allowed in any game, ever
- 4 Michael Turner rushing TD - Most allowed by one player, ever
- 24 points by Turner - Most allowed to one player, ever
- 28 points in one quarter - Ties most ever points allowed by Carolina in one quarter, 09/10/1995 against Buffalo 3rd quarter, 10/03/1999 against Washington in 2nd quarter. Lost all games.
Is there anything else to say.
The Good
Yes there were some positives from yesterday, they were just greatly overshadowed by the bad.
Offense Pulled together - The offense put up 28 points and cut the lead to three points early in the 4th quarter.
2 point conversion - Our first two point conversion attempt this season was successful.
Jake Delhomme - After the last two weeks, Delhomme put up decent numbers again. 21 of 35 for 295 yards and 1 TD. Plus he added a 12 yard rushing touchdown of his own. He moved the ball around completing pass to 6 different receivers, including 3 to TE Dante Rosario.
DeAngelo Williams - 4th consecutive 100 yards games, 5 total this season. Scored a TD in each of his last four games. 0 Fumbles for the season. Tied the team record of consecutive 100 yard game with Nick Goings (2004) and Steven Davis (2003). He set the team record of most 100 yard games with 8 total.
Steve Smith - Back again. Of course Delhomme taking two games off didn't help him either, but Smith had eight receptions for 168 yards. This marks his 26th 100 yard day.
Offensive Line - Yeah they did allow three sacks, but they also allowed Delhomme the time to pass for this 295 yards and for Williams go over 100 yards again. It was good to see the "starters" back on the field again.
Next week - After an embarsement like this, the Defense will want to make a statement, at least they better want to.
I'll leave you with this quote by Beason talking about how the defense didn't do it's part:
"Offense scored 28 ... and we should win the game," angry Panthers middle linebacker Jon Beason said. "Twenty-eight points is sufficient."
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It feels bleak...
tune in next weekend.
by Davejinxer on
Nov 24, 2008 3:56 PM EST
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Beason quote says it all
28 points should have been enough. You can’t say the defense was worn out in the 4th quarter, the Panthers had more time of possession.
They better get it together because the Packers have better receivers and a better pas rush. Lets hope the Pack whips the Saints tonight so they won;t be so fired up next weekend.
I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com
by Jaxon on
Nov 24, 2008 5:15 PM EST
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Agreed
I was just thinking the Packer better win tonight.
by LittleKing on
Nov 24, 2008 5:32 PM EST
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The OL
Yes, Jake threw for 295 yards, but it wasn’t do to the good protection the OL gave him because they didn’t. Jake was sacked three times and pressured many others, he had balls that were tipped because the DL was able to push back the OL. Jake never has time to even check down his receivers in order to find an open one because the OL can’t protect him long enough. The main reason the passing game struggles is because of the OL.
Even in run blocking the OL wasn’t good. A lot of the yards DeAngelo picked up were at the end of the game, 32 yards of his was picked up in the last 54 seconds. Stewart had 5 carries for 15 yards for a lousy 3 yard average due to the OL. More importantly, the OL failed to get any push to allow Stewart to pick up a TD the first time the Panthers were at Atlanta 1 yard line, Stewart had no gain.
Also, remember the costly false start penalties that both Otah & Gross made once again. No, this wasn’t a good game by the OL what so ever, I rate them a “D”.
by meanoreno on
Nov 24, 2008 7:01 PM EST
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Good points
you make very valid points and true they could have played better. I definitely am giving them a pass on a lot of issues, but in light of the defense, they played ok. Also, I listed as a good since the “starters” finally got to play together. Of course the term starters is used fairly lightly since they haven’t started and finished a game
by LittleKing on
Nov 24, 2008 9:06 PM EST
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Don't forget the dropped balls in the first half...
I still can’t get that Steve Smith drop in the Endzone out of my head.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
by Revshawn on
Nov 24, 2008 7:32 PM EST
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THAT'S THE PROBLEM!!!
“28 points is sufficient” by Beason…No it’s not sufficent when you allow a team to score 45 points.
This is what is wrong with Fox and if he doesn’t change soon, they will never win the division again. Did anyone check out Brees last night and the 51 points he put up agains a decent Green Bay defense? I know Ryan is only a rookie, but the Falcons ranked 6th (I believe) in points and we will have to put up with him for years to come!!! We need to be a complete team in order to compete every year and right now we are not. If the defense don’t show up every Sunday we should have an offense to get the job done and vice versa.
by Mack1124 on
Nov 25, 2008 10:44 AM EST
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It is scary
We know NO and ATL won’t have problems scoring for years to come. The defense should be a focus in the offseason.
Welcome to the blog Mack!
I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com
by Jaxon on
Nov 25, 2008 10:54 AM EST
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Sure it wasn't on Sunday
but I believe Beason’s point is that the Panthers defense needs to do it’s part and not allow the opposition’s offense to score like that. He is making the point that the (his) panthers D let the offense down and they realize they must do a better job.
However, you point about showing up every sunday is very true. IT does get tiresome of not knowing which team will show up.
by LittleKing on
Nov 25, 2008 11:08 AM EST
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Both sides of the ball are schkitso
How a defense can be so good against the run for 4-5 weeks now gets run all over is confusing when its the same personnel on the field.
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by Jaxon on
Nov 25, 2008 11:43 AM EST
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so true
and I think Mack is right, in that it goes back to the coaches in the consistency aspect. Although you can’t ever blame it all on one person but they have a large responsibility on keeping the team consistent.
But unfortunately I don’t have a solution for that problem. Wish I did.
by LittleKing on
Nov 25, 2008 1:58 PM EST
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I'd start with the defensive line myself.
We just lost too many players too quickly. The only returning player on the defensive line is Julius Peppers, and he might be gone next year if John Fox doesn’t resign him. That’s a red flag off the bat. Kris Jenkins had a bad year last year, but he’s changed the Jets defence completely around this year and now the defense is excellent against the run. We need someone like him on the inside to help plug up those holes that keep opening up. Why don’t John Fox sign a good load of defensive lineman like he did with the offensive line last offseason and let competition take its course?
That being said, John Fox needs to change up the playcalling a little bit. I don’t think he called enough blitzes last game, especially with the Panthers down by two scores. I’m the kind of guy that I think that John Fox needs to be bringing 5 and 6 men on every other 1st and 2nd down play in those types of situations.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
by Revshawn on
Nov 25, 2008 8:12 PM EST
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The answer to all of the Panthers' problems
According to ESPN “1st & 10,” the Panthers are one of the front runners for the post-prison Michael Vick bidding.
by panthersnbraves on
Nov 25, 2008 1:35 PM EST
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Oh please no
Its not because I don’t think Vick would still be a good QB (to what degree is debatable sure), but because I would hate to see all the negative press (protests?) and drama that would come with the signing. I can see the PETA protesters lining up outside the stadium now. Please no….JR would never subject his beloved franchise to that.
I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com
by Jaxon on
Nov 25, 2008 4:07 PM EST
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Really?
Where do these guys get their information. The current front office wouldn’t touch that for any reason. It would just be a nightmare.
by LittleKing on
Nov 25, 2008 9:34 PM EST
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Vick and our team
I don’t think it would be too bad publicly if Vick came to the Panthers, but I just don’t think he throws the ball well enough or accurately enough. He makes plays, but I don’t think he could hit open receivers as well as Matt Moore. I think Moore has the potential to play on a Tony Romo level, but right now we’re going with Jake and his 80.5 QB rating.
McNabb got benched for going 8 of 18 for 59 yds and 3 turnovers in the first half. That’s better than Jake’s 7 of 27, 72 yard and 4 turnover performance. Sorry, got off on a tangent.
The defense did let us down, but there are games where you just have to score 50 to win, and we can’t do it. Then there are games where you can score 17 and win by double digits. Either way, we’ve got to be prepared.
As much as I hated on Jake, I am glad he threw for 295 yards and got his good arm back, not the one he used the previous two weeks. I think that this week was a wake-up call and an aberration, and we’ll be fine. However, being fine and winning the Superbowl are two different things. I want a championship.
by usana_gaines on
Nov 26, 2008 4:38 AM EST
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Bingo
I never thought Vick was that good at QB when passing. I’d bring him in a kick returner/WR and back-up QB. My I’m just hypothesizing as he will never come to Carolina. I just don’t see it.
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by Jaxon on
Nov 26, 2008 11:08 AM EST
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